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re: Question for Devil Worshippers about Satan

Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:15 am to
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:15 am to
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Auburn board


Was AggieHank permabanned from that message board, too?

Jesus....
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:17 am to
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Goddamn, I remember you in school...


Hank is still IN school.

He never got out of it.

He now spends his days on this very board trying desperately to seem like the smartest, coolest kid in class, all the while lacking the self-awareness to understand how incredibly lame he appears to everyone.

He will forever be stuck in a High-School loop.

Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:20 am to
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God murdered(s) every single person on the planet, and ever single person that's ever existed.


Edgy, but stupid.

God creates free-will.

God also created things that have a natural life-cycle, then that cycle ends.

What is your Reddit username?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:16 pm to
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The only useful distinction is that you don't think it's illegal.
It's not illegal, but there's a reason for it.

God is creator of all things, and being creator, He is not contingent, but necessary. He needs nothing and owes His creation nothing. Therefore, He can do with us as as He sees fit.

In addition, taking the physical life of one of His creations is merely migrating that life between worlds. He moves a soul from this earthly realm to the spiritual realm, and He has all authority as the creator of all things to do that. Therefore, it's not "wrong" for God to do that. It's not "wrong" for God to take a life of the creation that He's made.

What makes murder unlawful for humans is precisely what makes it morally acceptable for God to kill: authority (or lack thereof). God has all authority to do with His creatures as He chooses, but we do not. What authority we have to take life is derived from God's authority as He has given it to us. We can kill when He commands (or allows) it because He has good reason to end life and we can only take it when authorized.

God has authorized the use of force to take life in circumstances of self defense, (just) war, and capital punishment by the state. Murder is unlawful taking of life, and only humans can commit murder.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:28 pm to
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This guy gets it. Maybe it’s because he actually read what the Bible says. Doesn’t even take very long to get to this verse from Genesis chapter 3:

22Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever—” 23therefore the LORD God sent him out from the garden of Eden to work the ground from which he was taken. 24He drove out the man, and at the east of the garden of Eden he placed the cherubim and a flaming sword that turned every way to guard the way to the tree of life.

So the LORD God didn’t want man to eat from the tree of Life either. It literally says right there “he” didn’t want man to have eternal life.
You have to be pretty ignorant of scripture to say something like this. The default state of Adam and Eve was that they would live forever. The primary punishment for their sin was that they would die (physically and spiritually). How is that a punishment if they weren't going to live forever in their state of obedience (or innocence)?

In addition, God grants everlasting life for those that trust in the sacrifice of His Son, Jesus Christ.

The reason God didn't want Adam and Eve to have everlasting life after they sinned was because death was a punishment for their sin, and that taking the fruit and eating would be them essentially saving themselves rather than receiving salvation from God's grace, which is how He always saves (it's not of works but of grace).

I'm curious what atheist website you visit to get these golden nuggets, because they aren't things you got from reading the Bible. If you were reading it, you would have read the context and known that what you are claiming is absurd.

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Side note: what’s all this “one of us” the LORD talks about. It’s almost as if he is talking to *gasp* other gods?
Or it's a trinitarian passage that expresses the concept of the Trinity (Father, Son, and Spirit) from the beginning. John 1 says that Jesus is the Word of God. From that viewpoint, Genesis 1 has the Trinity there for us to see plainly: the Father is there (in the beginning, God...), the Son is there (and God said...), and the Spirit is there (and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters).

The "us" is God communicating within the Trinity.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:31 pm to
I like the other gods interpretation better.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:36 pm to
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I like the other gods interpretation better.
Trinitarianism in the Torah.

Millions of Jews just screamed silently in collective outrage.
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 2:39 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 3:05 pm to
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It's not illegal, but there's a reason for it.



Because it's make-believe. Your god can't really dictate anything, any more than someone else's version.

You can play around with reality like any other religion to explain it away, but that's where it begins and ends.

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We can kill when He commands (or allows) it because He has good reason to end life and we can only take it when authorized.


Countless people throughout history have shown otherwise, sometimes by using their god's permission as an excuse and sometimes not.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46738 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 3:57 pm to
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Trinitarianism in the Torah.

Millions of Jews just screamed silently in collective outrage.
Their rejection of Christ as God is what led to them being cut off as the people of God and the gentiles being grafted in to that tree.

Jesus taught from the Torah about Hinself and showed how it testified about Him, even using passages that refer to God (showing His divine nature). He certainly thought that it was trinitarian in its teaching, and it nearly got Him stoned to death by the Jewish leaders multiple times.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:05 pm to
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Because it's make-believe. Your god can't really dictate anything, any more than someone else's version.
Thanks sharing your personal belief about God, but the issue is what the Bible teaches about God and His righteousness when it commands to His authority to take life.

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Countless people throughout history have shown otherwise, sometimes by using their god's permission as an excuse and sometimes not.
Yes, they have, yet there is but one God, and His revelation has ended and the Bible is complete, so He doesn’t command people to do anything outside of the Bible anymore. What He did command in history served a specific purpose and weren’t arbitrary directions based on capricious whims.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:06 pm to
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ut the issue is what the Bible teaches about God and His righteousness when it commands to His authority to take life.

But why would he need a human to do his dirty work for him? If he wants to take a life he could do it himself right?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46738 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:19 pm to
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But why would he need a human to do his dirty work for him? If he wants to take a life he could do it himself right?
He very well could, and He has. But God typically works through human means.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:16 pm to
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Thanks sharing your personal belief about God, but the issue is what the Bible teaches about God and His righteousness when it commands to His authority to take life.


What the Bible teaches is irrelevant otherwise.

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Yes, they have


Correct, and there's nothing your god can do about it.

I'll spare you the effort of going down the road to "we aren't meant to understand."
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:18 pm to
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He very well could, and He has.


That's the claim, sure.

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But God typically works through human means.


Of course, because "he" has no other option.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:30 pm to
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Your god can't really dictate anything,


So edgy, what a cool shitlord you are.....
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:31 pm to
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Correct, and there's nothing your god can do about it.


Hey dumbass, I'll offer you the same challenge I did your butt-buddy: Disprove the existence of God, tough-guy....
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:52 pm to
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Do you think there are satanists lurking on here?


AggieHank says hello
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46738 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 6:30 pm to
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What the Bible teaches is irrelevant otherwise.
It holds the truth to our sin and need of salvation through Jesus Christ. It holds the truth about who God is and our relationship with Him.

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Correct, and there's nothing your god can do about it.
There is, and if it is His will to stop such things, He does.

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I'll spare you the effort of going down the road to "we aren't meant to understand."
You wouldn’t care anyway. You want to shake your fist at your creator and look for any excuse to do so. Repent and believe upon the Lord your God, Jesus Christ, before it is too late for you.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46738 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 6:30 pm to
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Of course, because "he" has no other option
Your lack of faith is disturbing. Repent and trust in Jesus Christ before you die in your sins and suffer everlasting torment.
Posted by s2
Southdowns
Member since Sep 2016
6372 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 6:37 pm to
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I bet there are some hot goth chicks that congregate here



you recon aggiehank could pass for a goth chick? him and many others.




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