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re: Question for Devil Worshippers about Satan

Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:59 pm to
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:59 pm to
Do satanists feel guilty


Ever?
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5855 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:17 pm to
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not surprising that you're an atheist Hank
Not at all. If I had to describe my spiritual views, I would use the term "agnostic Deist" (tm).




Awesome response. Tells me everything I ever needed to know about you and why I'm forced to read your wanna be smart posts. Goddamn, I remember you in school...
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:18 pm to
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“MY invisible friend can beat up YOUR invisible friend!”


I admire any religious belief such as yours that by default dismisses anything unseen and unheard as necessarily non-existent.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 5:19 pm
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:24 pm to
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God creates murderers.

God creates Jihads.

God creates wars

God creates weapons of wars

God creates cancer

God murdered(s) every single person on the planet, and ever single person that's ever existed.


Curious statement. Can you cite your proof of the charge(s)?

Do you actually believe in God? (Creator of all things?) If so, did he also create everything that's "Good" as well?

Do you believe in the existence of His antithetical opposite Being -- aka Satan (or Devil)?
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29881 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:31 pm to
The same thing that's keeping you from wanting to die to meet God.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 5:54 pm
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3650 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:34 pm to
Isaiah 45:7 is pretty interesting:

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

is there really much difference between Satan worship and worship of “the one true god”? Also consider Jesus is LORD.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3650 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:45 pm to
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God doesn’t murder.


Dude. I know you are retarded but come on. Despite how you define murder, God kills shitloads of innocents including babies. I’m sure you will say God’s killings aren’t murder - that he is getting rid of the wicked. Were Aaron’s sons deserving to be killed for lighting incense when God told them to ho get incense? Did the Israelites deserve to be killed by God for worshipping God through the golden bull idol (before Moses even made them aware of that second commandment)? You are one sense SOB.

For those interested: This was an entertaining read and you can follow along in your Bible.

Amazon book link: Drunk with Blood: God’s Killings in the Bible
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109093 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:56 pm to
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Don’t be fooled. They are here. It’s just like the groomers. They are here too. They both will end up in the same place in my opinion.


The wood chipper
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3650 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 6:05 pm to
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God murdered(s) every single person on the planet, and ever single person that's ever existed.


This guy gets it. Maybe it’s because he actually read what the Bible says. Doesn’t even take very long to get to this verse from Genesis chapter 3:

22Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever—” 23therefore the LORD God sent him out from the garden of Eden to work the ground from which he was taken. 24He drove out the man, and at the east of the garden of Eden he placed the cherubim and a flaming sword that turned every way to guard the way to the tree of life.

So the LORD God didn’t want man to eat from the tree of Life either. It literally says right there “he” didn’t want man to have eternal life.

Side note: what’s all this “one of us” the LORD talks about. It’s almost as if he is talking to *gasp* other gods?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 6:10 pm to
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Did the Israelites deserve to be killed by God for worshipping God through the golden bull idol (before Moses even made them aware of that second commandment)?
This in particular seems especially unfair, given that the Canaanite god El (whose avatar was a bull) was the tribal god of Israel, before he changed his name to Yahweh and announced that statues would henceforth be against the rules.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 6:11 pm
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3650 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 6:46 pm to
In the first temple theology, one of the ways they worshipped YHWH (the LORD, who delivered them out of the hands of the Pharaoh) was with golden bull idols.

I realize this was after they began to conflate YHWH with El Elyon around the time of Josiah.

Reread Exodus 32. They didn’t make random gods, they made a golden calf idol that YHWH would inhabit. That’s the way they’d been doing it for YHWH for a couple hundred years and with EL for probably another couple thousand years.

In Exodus 32 right after they make the calf they dedicate it and a feast to the LORD YHWH who brought them out of Egypt. The calf was an idol of YHWH.

Yes it’s unfair YHWH killed most of them with making them kill each other and then inflicting them with a “very great plague” and making them grind up the golden calf and eat it. It’s unfair because they didn’t know they were doing anything wrong. Moses was still on the mountain and hadn’t brought the commandments to them. They were just worshipping YHWH the way they’d always done and they paid the price with their lives.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
14497 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 7:07 pm to
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If you talk to a practicing satanist


A practicing satanist is really anyone who rejects Jesus Christ. If you aren’t a child of the light, then you are a child of the darkness. There’s no in between.

Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me. 43 Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me. 46 Which one of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me? 47 Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God.”
Posted by Craig86
Florida
Member since Oct 2012
2088 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 7:19 pm to
If you wish to be with the sky wizard you worship, don’t hesitate to join him. I’m praying you make the right decision. I’m gonna frick as many women as I can before I meet big daddy Satan.
Posted by Craig86
Florida
Member since Oct 2012
2088 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 7:20 pm to
Anything non-missionary and trying for a baby is an abomination and you will burn!
Posted by everytrueson
West Hollywood, California
Member since Mar 2012
7810 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 7:24 pm to
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If you wish to be with Satan, why are you wasting your time on earth?


Not picking sides here, but couldn’t this be said for anyone who believes in the afterlife?
Posted by adam2000
Central
Member since Sep 2016
1163 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 9:10 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46738 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 10:31 am to
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Dude. I know you are retarded but come on.
Starting off with a personal attack when you are demonstrably ignorant of the Bible and Christian theology is a bold move.

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Despite how you define murder, God kills shitloads of innocents including babies. I’m sure you will say God’s killings aren’t murder - that he is getting rid of the wicked.
Defining murder is critical to this discussion and your accusations. You can’t just skim over that and say that “despite how you define murder”; that’s the whole issue. If what God does when He takes a life isn’t murder, then how is it immoral? What standard are you using to say it is immoral?

Is it because the lives He takes are “innocent”? If so, what standard are you using to define who is and isn’t innocent, and why do you think God is under any obligation to abide by that standard and that He can’t take the lives of any of His creatures that He has made?

The Bible tells us that God is perfectly righteous. It tells us that God requires moral perfection from humans. It tells us that sin must be punished by God because He is just. It tells us that all people are conceived in sin and born in iniquity based on the representative, Adam . Based on this standard, everyone is guilty before God, even children. No one is innocent. Therefore, it isn’t unjust for God to take the lives of any of His creatures, even children.

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Were Aaron’s sons deserving to be killed for lighting incense when God told them to ho get incense?
Yes. God gave specific instructions for how He wanted to be worshipped and Aaron’s sons disobeyed Him. Since they were priests and were leading the people in worship, they were supposed to be examples of holiness to the people. Instead, they were examples of rebellion and were killed for it.

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Did the Israelites deserve to be killed by God for worshipping God through the golden bull idol (before Moses even made them aware of that second commandment)?
Yes. They deserved to be killed by God for their sin. God holds all people accountable to the moral law (summarized by the 10 commandments) even if He hasn’t revealed it to them openly because He has implanted it in the hearts of all people.

Recall that God judged the Canaanites for their idol worship and child sacrifices by driving them out of the land at the hands of the Israelites. He was patient with them for hundreds of years but they didn’t change their ways. That was also before the tablets were given at Mt. Sinai. Cain was guilty of murder of Abel before the 10 commandments were given, as well.

The sad thing is that you know right from wrong in a general sense because you were created in the image of your creator, yet you suppress that knowledge of Him in unrighteousness. Because you reject God, you reject objective morality and therefore have no leg to stand on to judge or condemn anyone for what you perceive as immoral actions. You can’t judge God and you can’t judge other men. If you do, you are exhibiting foolishness and irrationality.

You need to repent of your sins and turn to God through trusting in the death of Jesus Christ to am forgive you if your sins.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 10:53 am to
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I don't think you understand what "murder" is.


The only useful distinction is that you don't think it's illegal.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:13 am to
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“MY invisible friend can beat up YOUR invisible friend!”


OK, dumbass, disprove the existence of God.....go ahead....

Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:14 am to
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And most of you have the emotional control and maturity of a toddler who has lost his binky.


Says the supposedly grown man who got permabanned from an Aggies message board.....
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