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re: Putin gassed and burned a church with kids and women inside
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:14 pm to PeleofAnalytics
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:14 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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The guy and the rest of his group did not deserve to be killed like that but let's not pretend what he was running was a "church".
Unless people were being held there against their will, it’s none of the governments business what they were doing
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:16 pm to ThuperThumpin
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What the FBI and ATF did was terrible. What David Koresh was doing to those children in that compound was terrible. What Russian soldiers are doing to civilians in Ukraine is terrible. What some Ukrainians did to civilians in Donbass is terrible.
What our government is doing to us now is terrible.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:21 pm to hawgfaninc
Putin must be a democrat. Clinton bombed a baby food cannery. Obama bombed citizens with no regard. In addition, Obama armed Isis to have an excuse to sell more weapons.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:21 pm to AUstar
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What's ironic about Waco is that the FBI was after Koresh for "sleeping" with underage girls. So their thought process apparently was to go in there and kill all the girls.
What is ironic is you see everything that happened and you really think the actual intent of the FBI was to go in there and kill all the children? They actually had a list of things to do and "kill the kids" was an item on the list?
That is like saying the people at NASA's thought process apparently was to kill everyone on the Challenger.
You do grasp that, just like the people dying on the Challenger, it is just possible that the intent was never to kill any innocent people but through sheer incompetence and gross negligence, it ended up happening.
I mean even a dog is usually smart enough to know when a kick is intentional and when it is not actually intended.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:23 pm to deltaland
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Unless people were being held there against their will, it’s none of the governments business what they were doing
That's what Jim Jones said. Nobody was being held against their will.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 4:08 pm to Tmcgin
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This board stays on brand
And you've been a cheerleader for the deaths of young men due to it being politically problematic for Joe Biden and now you think opposing the burning of women and children makes you pro-Koresh. This is the "civility" pieces of shite like this guy reference when saying they'll never vote for Trump.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 4:28 pm to Tmcgin
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Fans of Putin and Koresh This board stays on brand
If that is what you took from the OP, you are a moron.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 4:43 pm to hawgfaninc
Hey, don't blame the ATF. They were facing budget cuts because they weren't doing anything.
So, they did something.
So, they did something.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 4:52 pm to AUstar
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What's ironic about Waco is that the FBI was after Koresh for "sleeping" with underage girls. So their thought process apparently was to go in there and kill all the girls.
They should have alerted Koresh to Pedo Island. He and Bill C could have had a great time together.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:01 pm to BamaScoop
Hundreds, if not thousands, of corrupt deep state criminals should be in hard labor for life or hung 24/7 on live TV at public gallows.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:02 pm to hawgfaninc
I know two now retired FBI agents that were there. They both said Koresh started the fire. One of them was there in their first field assignment. They said they had recording devices inside.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:22 pm to hawgfaninc
I’ve said this about overly zealous police aggression, and I’ll say it for both Waco and Ruby Ridge as it all applies. When you only train people to react like a military force you should expect their first first response to be to act heavy handed, and react with violence as it’s their one and only chance to do what they’ve been training to do. What we really need to do is train people how to communicate effectively FIRST, and then react with force necessary, but everyone’s a cowboy, especially the Janet Reno’s and upper echelons making decisions that they face no personal life and death consequences in. It’s a problem that only feeds more problems and creates a virtual police state in the end, and untold distrust amongst citizens.
What happened in Waco and Ruby Ridge is a prime example of why it’s very very important to keep a big centralized government in check, but I’m afraid that has fallen on deaf ears, as we are presently head long in complete abandonment of the lessons we should learn regarding big government in the lives of a free people. Nobody cares, until it happens to them and they all of a sudden care now. I guess we are just hard headed as ever and absolutely must relearn lessons over and over again.
What happened in Waco and Ruby Ridge is a prime example of why it’s very very important to keep a big centralized government in check, but I’m afraid that has fallen on deaf ears, as we are presently head long in complete abandonment of the lessons we should learn regarding big government in the lives of a free people. Nobody cares, until it happens to them and they all of a sudden care now. I guess we are just hard headed as ever and absolutely must relearn lessons over and over again.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:39 pm to hawgfaninc
Killdozer did nothing wrong.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:42 pm to deltaland
quote:He was a literal pedophile. He was literally raping children. This board is more obsessed with that topic that any other place on the internet, and yet they still love their precious Daddy Koresh.
Unless people were being held there against their will, it’s none of the governments business what they were doing
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:44 pm to Motownsix
quote:The Davidians started the fire. That is correct. Just more inconveniently true items the board is indifferent to.
I know two now retired FBI agents that were there. They both said Koresh started the fire. One of them was there in their first field assignment. They said they had recording devices inside.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:50 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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ry not putting Koresh on some martyr pedestal like BLM does for guys like Michael Brown and George Floyd. The guy and the rest of his group did not deserve to be killed like that but let's not pretend what he was running was a "church".
So you believe the Government's story.
When you kill all of the people inside a compound you can claim whatever you want, since there isnt anyone tleft to contradict your narative.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:54 pm to Loserman
quote:Plenty of people survived - both released prior to the fire and after the fire. You're the one that needs to get your "narrative" straight.
When you kill all of the people inside a compound you can claim whatever you want, since there isnt anyone tleft to contradict your narative.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:55 pm to Loserman
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So you believe the Government's story.
When you kill all of the people inside a compound you can claim whatever you want, since there isnt anyone tleft to contradict your narative.
Wait.
You don't know that there were survivors and people who left that cult before the ATF murdered everyone?
Posted on 3/3/23 at 6:04 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Of course she doesn't.
Wait.
You don't know that there were survivors and people who left that cult before the ATF murdered everyone?
Posted on 3/3/23 at 6:14 pm to cwill
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Are you worried this could happen to you?
Noted libertarian - cwill. Shilling for the ATF.
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