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re: Purpose of pharma ads..........didn't know.......

Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:04 pm to
Posted by eitek1
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:04 pm to
I was telling my wife this earlier this evening. She asked why MSNBC was getting rid of Joy Reid. It’s a safety move. If the plug is pulled on pharmaceutical commercials they don’t have the viewership to support the network.

They have to go away from “woke” to try and get really viewers. Without the “propaganda subsidies”, outlets like MSNBC fold and so does the left.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:04 pm to
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Ex-pharma consultant turned industry critic @calleymeans went viral when he told Tucker Carlson that the true goal of pharma ads on TV is not to sell drugs but to buy off the news media.


I happen to work in pharma media sales and can tell you this is bullshite. My company has data that shows a high percentage of HCPs will write a script for a particular product if a patient requests it. They advertise for the exact same reason every other company does.
This post was edited on 2/23/25 at 9:05 pm
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:06 pm to
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every mainstream media outlet was sponsored by Pfizer for a drug/vaccine that was free.




You not having to pay anything out of pocket for a treatment doesn’t mean it’s “free” and that the company who made it isn’t making money off it.
Posted by Robin Masters
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:17 pm to
I remember being confused when I would see IBM enterprise solutions being advertised on network TV. Like that’s a pretty specific decision maker you’re trying to catch with a massive net.

I think it’s the same as OP. It’s basically saying “if your news department runs across a major story regarding us please remember we spent $100MM in advertising with you last year”
Posted by Rip N Lip
Zambodia
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:18 pm to
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As bad as product placement can be in news, the 1950’s news was a pinnacle of product placement where oil companies and tobacco companies had a huge stroke in what was in the news.


I’m old enough to remember cigarette ads in magazines, and the constant litigation against big tobacco. So I am also old enough to remember when pharma companies were first allowed to advertise prescription drugs to consumers. Both are poison.

The media will take money from who is willing to pay them. And the Feds were happy to take tax money from Big Tobacco (still are) until the health risks were exposed.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:20 pm to
It has been known for years. We are only one of few nations that allow it.
Posted by anc
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:21 pm to
At one point something like 70% of MSNBC's ad revenue was Pharma. Fox News isn't that high, but it's pretty significant as well.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:24 pm to
OTC pharmaceutical ads became legal to advertise on TV in 1985. Prescription drugs became legal to advertise on TV in 1997.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:26 pm to
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Ex-pharma consultant turned industry critic @calleymeans
went viral when he told Tucker Carlson that the true goal of pharma ads on TV is not to sell drugs but to buy off the news media.


This makes perfect sense. I've never understood all their adverts, because the docs decide what prescription medicine you take not you (in general). This statement that the pharm companies just want the media in bed with them so the media would not have negative news stories about them rings true to me. Thats why President Trump was talking about outlawing pharm commercials last week.
Well, duh.

What did you THINK they were doing? Remember, you need a prescription to get Skyrizi, you can't just go out and buy it. There's little point to advertise it, if your skin is that bad you'd go see a dermatologist and get it prescribed. And this doesn't get doctors to prescribe their meds, that happens when marketers wine and dine (and pay) doctors directly.

But the pharmaceutical company dumps untold millions into networks. Watch the news (CBS, CNN, Fox, you name it), and you will see 9-10 pharmaceutical commercials, for every non-pharma. It makes little to no sense, unless you consider it to be the way to pay off the networks for favorable coverage and influence.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:27 pm to
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Fox News isn't that high, but it's pretty significant as well.

In addition to pharma ads Fox makes money off of the Based Pillow Merchant and selling supplements to old people.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:32 pm to
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It has been known for years. We are only one of few nations that allow it.


New Zealand is the only other country that allows it.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:40 pm to
Yes this is known.

Time for RFK to put an end to this bribery scheme.

Mockingbird Fake News MSM needs to die a bleeding financial ruin death.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:09 pm to
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Ex-pharma consultant turned industry critic @calleymeans went viral when he told Tucker Carlson that the true goal of pharma ads on TV is not to sell drugs but to buy off the news media.


I've said for years without Big Pharma the Gaslight Media is not collecting enough advertisement revenue to pay their leftist news hacks millions annually, it's been pretty obvious for the past 10-15 years what's been going on.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:10 pm to
They were buying control of the narrative
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:12 pm to
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But they also want to create a marketing pull campaign- ingrain the drug name and the purpose in the public’s mind to the point where the patients come in asking their doctor for the magic pill they saw on TV by name


Yeah, ask any Pharma Sales Rep why her company advertises on TV and that's what she'll tell you but, nahh. That's a lie. The real reason is to buy silence and alliance with Mass Media.

There's also another reason - it's a bribe from Big FedGov to Mass Media, laundered through Big Pharma. Big Pharma makes bank off of Big FedGov's purchases of Big Pharma's vaccine products. In return, Big Pharma bribes Mass Media.

Who knows? I would not be surprised if Big Pharma somehow found a way to get some USAID money, too.

We've been had, people. We been took. We been bamboozled.
This post was edited on 2/23/25 at 10:15 pm
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:14 pm to
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I happen to work in pharma media sales and can tell you this is bullshite. My company has data that shows a high percentage of HCPs will write a script for a particular product if a patient requests it. They advertise for the exact same reason every other company does.

I had 30 yrs as a Sr Acct Exec in various mediums and you are wrong. “National” accounts are first priority always.
Posted by Out da box
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:14 pm to
That’s not the only industry!
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:25 pm to
As far as i remember, it was absolutely free and the federal government (us) was paying for it.

So in that sense you’re correct, but it didn’t “cost” anything to get the shot.
Posted by JakeRStephenes
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:30 pm to
Duh!
Posted by Tarps99
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Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 4:32 am to
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And the Feds were happy to take tax money from Big Tobacco (still are) until the health risks were exposed.


The feds and states are still on the take for tobacco revenue, that is how some states financed their kid med programs early on. But when tobacco tax revenue started to wane as people quit due to high cigarette taxes, programs to get people to quit, and older smokers dying, instead of cutting or reducing those kid med programs, they increased cigarette taxes again or started pulling funds from the general fund to fund these kid med programs.


Instead of demonizing the cigarette industry, states should be encouraging smoking like playing the lottery to boost revenue for this dirty habit like they are with gambling.
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