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re: Puerto Rico- Us Citizens, Territory, Pays no Federal taxes
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:07 pm to JuiceTerry
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:07 pm to JuiceTerry
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Let the island die anyway, though, right?
That's about all you have left
Are we not helping?
Have I not clear said I want us to help?
This post was edited on 9/30/17 at 1:08 pm
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Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:08 pm to thelawnwranglers
Yeah. When we claimed them as US territory.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:10 pm to thelawnwranglers
Yeah, but you get cheap gas you don't have to pump, and there are no left turns to mess people up. (Really an odd state for an outsider to drive through, the left turn thing got me the most)
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:10 pm to Jorts R Us
quote:And? I think the Alabama senate race had less.
That referendum had about 23 per cent voter turn out, though...
The US won't allow Puerto Rican statehood. So all of this whining about a territory full of American citizens who are suffering is fricking moot.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:11 pm to thelawnwranglers
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Just want to understand responsibility to help.
They are American citizens. End of discussion.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:11 pm to Napoleon
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Yeah, but you get cheap gas you don't have to pump, and there are no left turns to mess people up. (Really an odd state for an outsider to drive through, the left turn thing got me the most)
Gas is more trouble then it is worth would rather pump my own
Left turn thing is nice bc people aren't blocking lane waiting to turn
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:12 pm to JuiceTerry
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And? I think the Alabama senate race had less.
That's historically low for these referendums. You stating over 90 percent want statehood is a misrepresentation of the facts.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:12 pm to TxTiger82
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They are American citizens. End of discussion.
So we are helping and should
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:13 pm to Jorts R Us
I didn't state that, try again
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:16 pm to thelawnwranglers
quote:No state pays enough in federal taxes to solely justify some of the emergency aid they receive, especially Florida and Louisiana.
Not really they pay no taxes yet federal support in response to these type of natural disasters are paid with taxes
Regardless, it is a US territory with US citizens so they are our responsibility in disasters like this.
Did Puerto Rico willingly become part of the US? No.
Who gave people in Puerto Rico Citizenship? We did.
Who gave tax breaks / amnesty to Puerto Rico? We did.
Can Puerto Rico just go its own separate way and become their own country? No.
Seems like everything you are complaining about is stuff that was decided by the US government for Puerto Rico.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:16 pm to JuiceTerry
Who are you arguing with?
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:17 pm to thelawnwranglers
quote:You very clearly asked if we are required to help.
Are we not helping?
Have I not clear said I want us to help?
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:23 pm to JuiceTerry
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I didn't state that, try again
Yeah, you said over 90 per cent voted for it. That's certainly accurate, but considering the looooow voter turnout that's hardly the mandate you made it out to be. The truth is the island is pretty divided on the issue.
It's not relevant to the discussion of whether they should get US aid or not, but I like facts and people who represent them fairly.
This post was edited on 9/30/17 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:25 pm to Jorts R Us
quote:So you agree that the dude's assertion that Puerto Rico consistently votes against statehood is fake arse news. Cool.
but I like facts and people who represent them fairly.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:26 pm to JuiceTerry
You remind me of PC Principle.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:28 pm to JuiceTerry
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Your entire thread is an embarrassing failure.
If anyone would know it's JuiceTerry. He once started like a 7 page thread laughing at everyone for believing Comey told Trump he wasn't under investigation only to find out he was the joke. Good times!
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:28 pm to JuiceTerry
CNN arse News
Salon arse News
Both acknowledge these were non-binding referendums with historically low turnout, mostly due to boycott by anti-statehood parties. Salon even points out that the pro-statehood party is pushing statehood as way to resolve their debt crisis.
Salon arse News
Both acknowledge these were non-binding referendums with historically low turnout, mostly due to boycott by anti-statehood parties. Salon even points out that the pro-statehood party is pushing statehood as way to resolve their debt crisis.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:28 pm to thelawnwranglers
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Are we not helping?
Have I not clear said I want us to help?
We aren't doing what we should've already done.
quote:
"We are dying, and you are killing us with the inefficiency and the bureaucracy," San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz said Friday at a news conference. She highlighted donations from companies and others, including 200,000 pounds of food donated by Goya, as a contrast to federal help.
"This is what we got last night: four pallets of water, three pallets of meals and 12 pallets of infant food — which I gave them to the people of Comerio, where people are drinking off a creek," she said. "So I am done being polite. I am done being politically correct. I am mad as hell."
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:31 pm to CCTider
quote:There are 9500 shipping containers delivered and waiting for movement, no truck drivers available, what are we not doing?
We aren't doing what we should've already done.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:34 pm to thelawnwranglers
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Please explain US Federal response required?
I am not sure thats a good talking point.
Thats like arguing that because some southern states take in more federal money than they give to Uncle Sam that somehow that disqualifies them from federal aid.
PS I think Trump is doing the right thing atm.
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