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‘Propaganda’: Top MIT Climate Scientist Trashes ‘97% Consensus’ Claim
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:23 am
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:23 am
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Dr. Richard Lindzen is sick and tired of the media repeating the so-called “97 percent consensus” statistic to show just how strong the global warming agreement is among climate scientists. It’s purely “propaganda,” argues Lindzen.
“It was the narrative from the beginning,” Lindzen, a climatologist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), told RealClear Radio Hour host Bill Frezza Friday. “In 1998, [NASA’s James] Hansen made some vague remarks. Newsweek ran a cover that says all scientists agree. Now they never really tell you what they agree on.”
“It is propaganda,” Lindzen said. “So all scientists agree it’s probably warmer now than it was at the end of the Little Ice Age. Almost all Scientists agree that if you add CO2, you will have some warming. Maybe very little warming.”
“But it is propaganda to translate that into it is dangerous and we must reduce CO2,” he added.
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A paper by five leading climatologists published in the journal Science and Education found only 41 out of the 11,944 published climate studies examined in Cook’s study explicitly stated mankind has caused most of the warming since 1950 — meaning the actual consensus is 0.3 percent.
“It is astonishing that any journal could have published a paper claiming a 97% climate consensus when on the authors’ own analysis the true consensus was well below 1%,” said Dr. David Legates, a geology professor at the University of Delaware and the study’s lead author.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:25 am to GumboPot
Dims lying to push their narrative?!? Say it ain't so....
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:29 am to GumboPot
IOSH is gonna be so fricking triggered
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:30 am to Vols&Shaft83
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LSUTANGERINE + IOSH are gonna be so fricking triggered
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:32 am to Vols&Shaft83
This was already known. The famous 98% consensus was based on two questions that were framed to get a specific response.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:35 am to GumboPot
He will be sent to be re-educated only to never be heard from again.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:35 am to Vols&Shaft83
quote:The Cook paper is trash, I've said so myself several times
IOSH is gonna be so fricking triggered
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:40 am to GumboPot
Where have we seen this before....
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Check out the rhetoric...
Lot of "settlers" back then also...
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I Can't Believe It's Not Science
Check out the rhetoric...
Lot of "settlers" back then also...
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For nearly half a century, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) have put out dietary guidelines telling Americans to eat less sodium, cholesterol, and saturated fat — i.e., red meat and full-fat dairy, including butter — and to eat more whole grains, fruits, and vegetables, among other directives. These recommendations emanated from hearings held in the mid-to-late 1970s by the Senate Select Committee on Nutrition and Human Needs, despite a “boisterous mob of critics,” including those within the scientific community who pleaded with the Committee to wait for more research “before we make announcements to the American public.” In response, Committee Chairman Sen. McGovern responded that “Senators don’t have the luxury that the research scientist does of waiting until every last shred of evidence is in.”
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Since the Committee issued its report in 1977, those patient research scientists have repeatedly called into question or undermined many of the Committee’s original recommendations. Increasing the level of dietary salt, for example, appears to lead to hypertension only in a small percentage of the population; and in some, lowering dietary salt can, in fact, result in higher blood pressure. Moderate levels of dietary cholesterol no longer seems to be linked to heart disease. And full-fat dairy has been shown to reduce the risk of obesity and diabetes.
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Scientific progress is not achieved via committee — whether Congressional or scientific. Rather, science advances toward an understanding of reality through years — often decades — of research, with scientists fighting for their own hypotheses. They present, defend, test, and modify their ideas over time. Whichever side offers the most compelling argument “wins” by gradually becoming the predominant theory. Soon, other researchers gravitate toward that theory, basing their own research on it.
Congress, of course, is an inherently political entity. And so when it — or any other government-appointed body — privileges one theory over another, it creates bias that trickles down to the research community. The problem is not simply that the government makes decisions on the basis of imperfect information, but that government intervention, itself, can distort the development of research.
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Men who have excessive faith in their theories or ideas are not only ill prepared for making discoveries; they also make very poor observations. Of necessity, they observe with a preconceived idea, and when they devise an experiment, they can see, in its results, only a confirmation of their theory. In this way they distort observation and often neglect very important facts because they do not further their aim…. But it happens further quite naturally that men who believe too firmly in their theories, do not believe enough in the theories of others. So the dominant idea of these despisers of their fellows is to find others’ theories faulty and to try to contradict them. The difficulty, for science, is still the same.
CLAUDE BERNARD, An Introduction to the Study of Experimental Medicine, 1865
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:41 am to Iosh
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The Cook paper is trash
One's man trash is another man's treasure.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:48 am to GumboPot
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A paper by five leading climatologists published in the journal Science and Education found only 41 out of the 11,944 published climate studies examined in Cook’s study explicitly stated mankind has caused most of the warming since 1950 — meaning the actual consensus is 0.3 percent.
That looks like some data that needs adjustin'
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:51 am to Iosh
quote:Yeah it's terrible. It's essentially psychological research done poorly. And it's used to appeal to authority rather than actual science and evidence itself.
The Cook paper is trash, I've said so myself several times
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:52 am to GumboPot
johcolemanblog
Also check out John Coleman, who founded the weather channel, he has a lot of AGW take down information.
Also check out John Coleman, who founded the weather channel, he has a lot of AGW take down information.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:58 am to TrueTiger
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johcolemanblog
Also check out John Coleman, who founded the weather channel, he has a lot of AGW take down information.
Bookmarked for later.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:01 am to ThinePreparedAni
Not.Enough.Upvotes.
The headlong rush by the scientific community to accept the "fat bad/carbs good" dietary hypothesis may have done more long term damage to the American Experiment than all the other issues combined.
More than any other cause, it has contributed not only to the higher rates of obesity and disease, but all of the costs associated with it - including the massive increase in the US debt due to spiraling healthcare costs, and the knock-on financial effects of dealing with that debt.
The headlong rush by the scientific community to accept the "fat bad/carbs good" dietary hypothesis may have done more long term damage to the American Experiment than all the other issues combined.
More than any other cause, it has contributed not only to the higher rates of obesity and disease, but all of the costs associated with it - including the massive increase in the US debt due to spiraling healthcare costs, and the knock-on financial effects of dealing with that debt.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:06 am to Vols&Shaft83
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IOSH is gonna be so fricking triggered
So true.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:08 am to GumboPot
quote:No PhD in Astrophysics, no care.
Dr. Richard Lindzen
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:16 am to GumboPot
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So all scientists agree it’s probably warmer now than it was at the end of the Little Ice Age. Almost all Scientists agree that if you add CO2, you will have some warming.
It pretty much tells you that 98% of scientists understand that when we add CO2 it warms the planet. For the life of me I don't understand where the miscommunication is if we are, indeed, adding CO2. It's been the hottest years on record recently and we're pouring more into the atmosphere. Why is it so hard to put the giant round peg in the giant round hole and have a grown up conversation
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:23 am to GumboPot
Hey Guyz! We finally found a scientist!
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