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re: Privilege is a LIE
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:15 am to bmy
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:15 am to bmy
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Question: why do you deserve your fathers money more than the taxpayer/projects supported by tax dollars? You didn't earn it. You don't deserve it either.
Why did you deserve your mother's milk more than the rest of society. You didn't make it. You didn't deserve it either.
What a sophomoric socialist argument.
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Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:15 am to bmy
quote:Are you poor?
Some snotty arse ends up getting the money because he did household chores and was privileged enough to be born into wealth.. then he wants to talk down to people
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:17 am to bmy
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Question: why do you deserve your fathers money more than the taxpayer/projects supported by tax dollars?
Is this rhetorical, or do you actually believe this tripe?
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:18 am to Hawkeye95
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I really think it was marketed poorly by liberals.
If they had said, you should recognize your blessings in life and be thankful for them. And realize not everyone had the same blessings, I think it would have worked. but they didn't do it.
liberals suck at marketing.
No way. "Privileged" in the way Liberals use it is meant to demean. Blessings is far to "nice sounding" to suit the same purpose.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:18 am to Hawkeye95
I stand corrected. I didn't read your original post but did read your second. I broke my own rule.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:18 am to bmy
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I don't.
Fair enough.
As to your next question, I will only speak for myself. I am not blind to the fact that the opportunities I have had in my lifetime are the rare, rare exception to most in this world. I do not feel guilty about it or apologize for it, in fact, I am incredibly thankful for it and hope that I can do the same for my children one day. If that is called privilege, then so be it.
This post was edited on 12/22/16 at 11:20 am
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:23 am to Broke
Nah, white privilege exists, just not even 1% as much as the left will tell you it does.
If you're a law-abiding white man, you won't get pulled over as much as a law-abiding black man will. There's an example.
The left treats "white" as a monolith, and the elite left of places like Westchester, Silicon Valley, Beverly Hills, etc, observe that white people are far richer, through little doing of their own, than non-whites and project that observation onto the corn fields, piney woods, swamps, mountains, and now the rust belt with the assumption that the rest of the country in this way mirrors their bubble; it does not, and whites in the flyover states have no reason to listen to that silly, bigoted rhetoric.
If you're a law-abiding white man, you won't get pulled over as much as a law-abiding black man will. There's an example.
The left treats "white" as a monolith, and the elite left of places like Westchester, Silicon Valley, Beverly Hills, etc, observe that white people are far richer, through little doing of their own, than non-whites and project that observation onto the corn fields, piney woods, swamps, mountains, and now the rust belt with the assumption that the rest of the country in this way mirrors their bubble; it does not, and whites in the flyover states have no reason to listen to that silly, bigoted rhetoric.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:24 am to Gaspergou202
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Why did you deserve your mother's milk more than the rest of society. You didn't make it. You didn't deserve it either.
What a sophomoric socialist argument.
No doubt bmy will sneer at this, but you are right. If children do not deserve the fruits of their parents wealth, should we all hoard our money in order to live under the lowest standards of unprivileged Americans? Then, once we croak, it can be evenly distributed among the equally repressed commoners!
Where would my motivation to earn go? How would that impact the economy and wealth creation in general?
Well. At least we wouldn't have to worry about illegals sneaking in anymore.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:24 am to WorkinDawg
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No way. "Privileged" in the way Liberals use it is meant to demean. Blessings is far to "nice sounding" to suit the same purpose.
privilege is not meant to be demeaning though. I do agree people use it to demean, but its not meant to be demeaning.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:25 am to Ingeniero
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Yeah but imagine how hard all that stuff would be if you were BLACK.
My answer to people that think like this is, I am WHITE, deal with it.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:25 am to Hawkeye95
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I think that the black community doesn't like to air its dirty laundry to other people. But my token black friend says these things are discussed in the black community.
Sure, and I don't know what goes on inside the black community clubhouse
But, let's say at some influential black church, they present a BLM front to the world, but behind closed doors people are discussing how profiling is at least partially the product of black youths committing a great deal of the street crime in a city.
If black youths, who aren't in the closed door meeting, don't get that message - of what value is the message?
I don't want to disparage black community leaders who may be a little different than me politically but see the big problems and are working in their own ways to fix them.
But, all I can see is that in many areas, like Baton Rouge I'm guessing, and in Atlanta, it's not working. So if I can't help the situation because I don't have credibility, and if throwing money at shitty schools isn't helping, and if the black community leaders aren't fixing the problem, what are we supposed to do about it?
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:26 am to Ingeniero
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Yeah but imagine how hard all that stuff would be if you were BLACK.
It would absolutely be harder.
-Everyone with a decent IQ
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:26 am to bmy
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Question: why do you deserve your fathers money more than the taxpayer/projects supported by tax dollars? You didn't earn it. You don't deserve it either.
You've got the question wrong.
The question is, "why do the taxpayers have a greater right to decide where a person's money goes than the person who earned it".
Sure. The kids didn't earn it. Neither did the fricking taxpayers.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:27 am to Hawkeye95
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privilege is not meant to be demeaning though. I do agree people use it to demean, but its not meant to be demeaning.
So if in theory it's not demeaning but in practical use it usually is, who cares about whether it is meant to be demeaning?
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:27 am to Pettifogger
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1) I agree that the obstacles for a young black person often exceed that for white peers.
2) I agree that the generational impact of racism has lingered, and will continue to linger (albeit with lessened impact)
3) My issues are more with causation and intervening opportunity. While I think the impacts of racism have harmed the black "community," I think the black community's own rhetoric is, at this point, of far greater damage. An example would be when churches are often the first to use stigmatizing labels of racism to avoid looking at problems within - you've got a problem.
On point 1, I disagree. A Black person with enough sense to study and get a degree is literally picking a job. A Black person without a degree likely does face tougher obstacles.
On point 3, the single greatest harm to the black community is whatever happened to cause fatherless homes being the norm. When actual racism existed blacks had lower divorce rates and lower unwed pregnancy rates than whites. Their culture has been eviscerated in 50 years. I honestly can't see them advancing in any significant way until they fix this fatherless epidemic. A culture simply can't survive without fathers.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:28 am to Pettifogger
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If black youths, who aren't in the closed door meeting, don't get that message - of what value is the message?
i feel confident that black youth are there and they do listen. But they are the ones that don't get caught up in the shite, so you don't notice them.
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what are we supposed to do about it?
I have no fricking clue. the only thing I can think of is drug legalization and prison reform, and I think that only fixes part of the problem. and introduces new problems.
I really wish I knew how to fix it, it desperately needs fixing.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:29 am to Broke
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Walking around neighborhoods trying to get business
But But But...
If you were black your neighbors wouldn't have opened their doors to talk to you much less give you business.
If you were black the neighbors wouldn't have had jobs or money to buy from you because the evil white people would have already left the area and taken the jobs with them.
RACIST
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:29 am to NIH
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A black kid with decent grades and average test scores can go anywhere they want college or grad school wise. The problem is that culturally education is undervalued and stupidity and ignorance are the norm.
We don't live in a country where your level of education guarantees you success. Success is more dependent on who you know that what you know.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:31 am to Haughton99
The problem is the moronic idea of white privilege.
Are my kids more privileged than Obama's?
Privilege certainly helps some people and there may well be more whites in that category, but it isn't even close to uniquely white
Are my kids more privileged than Obama's?
Privilege certainly helps some people and there may well be more whites in that category, but it isn't even close to uniquely white
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:31 am to WorkinDawg
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On point 1, I disagree. A Black person with enough sense to study and get a degree is literally picking a job. A Black person without a degree likely does face tougher obstacles.
While I agree that black Americans have really really great chances to get degrees and advance in their field, the issue is getting to that point.
I'm a huge personal responsibility advocate. But we tend to act like black kids are born at 18 years old in their senior year of high school. If you come from a broken home without decent parental support, with a friend group that doesn't value education (and their parents aren't doing a bang up job either) at a school where few people go on to do very much...
While I think it's great that some 15 year olds in that situation will pull themselves up by their bootstraps, show initiative, go live at the library and overcome the odds, it's just not an even trade to say that 18 years of shite is washed out by more favorable college admissions and scholarship opportunities.
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