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Presidential pardons should not be allowed any longer.....
Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:35 am
Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:35 am
It is against everything we preach about the judicial system....
Do the crime, pay the time!
It has become this end-term spectacle on who gets out of trouble.....it is complete bullshite, IMO.
Do the crime, pay the time!
It has become this end-term spectacle on who gets out of trouble.....it is complete bullshite, IMO.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:37 am to oldskule
Were you upset about it before this Hunter pardon?
Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:38 am to oldskule
I share your sentiment. A lot of scumbags have been pardoned. So basically what the govt is telling us is if you have any obscure link to the president, you can in fact get special treatment.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:39 am to oldskule
Change the Constitution then.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:40 am to oldskule
Just remember what you are giving up.
No Jan 6 pardons. No pardon's for abuse of Judicial overreach. You are eliminating a check and balance on the Judiciary.
No Jan 6 pardons. No pardon's for abuse of Judicial overreach. You are eliminating a check and balance on the Judiciary.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:40 am to oldskule
The feral government should be abolished period
Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:44 am to oldskule
So, screw the whole system up, because of a corrupt Biden Administration?
Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:45 am to oldskule
No we just need to not vote in presidents with low character and morals
Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:46 am to oldskule
I agree. It's goofy and banana republic-y.
If balance of power between the three branches and electing presidents and kings were the goals of the Founding Fathers, presidential pardons certainly don't seem to fit into the equation.
If balance of power between the three branches and electing presidents and kings were the goals of the Founding Fathers, presidential pardons certainly don't seem to fit into the equation.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:48 am to oldskule
You sound like a dem in 2016 wanting to get rid of the electoral college.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:49 am to Violent Hip Swivel
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If balance of power between the three branches and electing presidents and kings were the goals of the Founding Fathers, presidential pardons certainly don't seem to fit into the equation
I also posted this in another thread but it seems pertinent here too.
The president is a limited term, he will suffer political and social fallout for abusing pardons. This is preferred over the alternative which can result in long term and permanent overreach of the judiciary.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:49 am to oldskule
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Presidential pardons should not be allowed any longer.....
Yeah, let's just leave zero recourse for a runaway judiciary.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:52 am to oldskule
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It is against everything we preach about the judicial
As long as you assume that our justice system is not corrupt.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:54 am to oldskule
If used as a tool to mitigate dirty prosecutions it is completely fine. If you're screening your kid with a "blanket" pardon then you are doing more than just "protecting your son"
Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:56 am to oldskule
They should only be allowed for people who have actually been convicted of a crime. Hunter has free rein to break any federal law between now and December 31.
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 8:06 am
Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:57 am to roguetiger15
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No we just need to not vote in presidents with low character and morals
To be fair, America didn’t
Posted on 12/3/24 at 8:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Nor Executive orders.
So you want unelected bureaucrats to have sole authority over their agencies? Talk about a deep state...
Posted on 12/3/24 at 8:05 am to SidewalkDawg
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So you want unelected bureaucrats to have sole authority over their agencies?
No.
Do you know how law is passed?
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