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re: President Trump’s push for more AI data centers faces backlash from his own voters

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Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/1/25 at 10:50 am to
worst cult ever.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71335 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 11:01 am to
A reminder: Your defense against the policies of an overbearing Federal government is your state and local government.

Vote accordingly.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465227 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 11:03 am to
David Sachs was on Allin a few weeks ago basically arguing that states rights should be invalidated to ensure these buildouts continue.

It's going to be interesting to see how conservatism is defined in relation to states rights moving forward.

*ETA: for those who don't know, he was originally on the podcast but is now the AI czar in the Trump admin. He's not a nobody.
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 11:04 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/1/25 at 11:05 am to
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But the Trump the actual man and politician is not necessarily at the heart of the movement.

Trump, the actual person and politician, is basically your run of the mill, boomer, hack, neo-liberal, Koch bros. Republican.

In this instance he's literally the opposite of that. He's a leftist pushing big federal government to eradicate states rights.

The traditional Republican/Koch brother is a states rights and decentralized power/system type of guy.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71335 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 11:07 am to
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David Sachs was on Allin a few weeks ago basically arguing that states rights should be invalidated to ensure these buildouts continue.


Of course. They are still trying to get the ten year ban on any and all state regulation of AI and associated tech passed by hook or by crook. Hell, their last attempt was barely a blurb here, mostly ignored. Thankfully, it was defeated in the "BBB".
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 11:08 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465227 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 11:09 am to
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A reminder: Your defense against the policies of an overbearing Federal government is your state and local government.

Vote accordingly.




I synced it up to the intro. You need to listen through 26:00.

Sacks even tried to use the "DEI" boogeyman to sell this Leviathan
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71335 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 11:18 am to
Well, if that doesn't rally the troops around the wagons I don't know what will.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10252 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 11:58 am to
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President Trump’s push for more AI data centers faces backlash from his own voters


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more than 300 of them


Anyone else recognize the propaganda?

Trump is facing backlash from 0.00038% of his voters, but we're expected to believe this is another sign that MAGA is dead.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
4385 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 12:27 pm to
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, destroying the local aesthetic.



nah. even at a 1000 acres they will take up a very small amount of space per each county. After they are built, people will forget they are even there.



We either win the AI race or China does.

Not building them isn't an option.


Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38333 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 12:28 pm to
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Shut down the data centers
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27323 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 12:32 pm to
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more than 300 of them


Anyone else recognize the propaganda?

Trump is facing backlash from 0.00038% of his voters, but we're expected to believe this is another sign that MAGA is dead.


Danville, PA has a population of only about 4,400.

Is it "propaganda" to point out that the President is on opposite sides of some of his core base on an issue? The same articles were written about Biden's DOI approving a bunch of drill permits in 2021 and 2022, despite what his base wanted.

It is definitely true that many Trump supporters in Rural USA don't want data centers in their backyards.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10335 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 12:36 pm to
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It involves his billionaire backers. Trump used the working class to get elected, then said "frick you."


He definitely learned the game after his first term.

No doubt.

And all the idiots around here cheered when he so transparently manipulated them with things like, "No tax on tips."

There's not a sucker in the world as gullible as a populist.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10335 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 12:37 pm to
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Trump is facing backlash from 0.00038% of his voters, but we're expected to believe this is another sign that MAGA is dead.


Oh, don't worry.

Trump really could shoot someone in the face on 5th Avenue and 98% of you populists would defend it.

Never a truer statement was made than that one.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294848 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 12:38 pm to
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There's not a sucker in the world as gullible as a populist.


This has been eye opening, for sure.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21150 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 12:46 pm to
Honestly, it really doesn't matter which nation "wins" the AI race....
Folks are not considering the bigger picture.
What most folks don't realize is that along with AI and technology advancements comes the inevitable abilities to combine humans and computers. All the chips in your brains sci fi shite isn't just sci fi anymore.

Think about it... the humans that allow themselves to become interfaced with computers (AI) will be far far far superior to regular humans, but missing one vital component.... they are no longer human.

Now, regardless of your religious beliefs, think about what the book of Revelations predicts.... The "mark of the beast " becomes very understandable now.

There's no stopping it. What will be will be. At the end, the only choice remaining is whether or not a person chooses to be transhuman or not.
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 12:47 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465227 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 7:11 am to
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Well, if that doesn't rally the troops around the wagons I don't know what will.


The acceptance of erosion of states rights is one of the weirder political shifts I've seen.

I expect it with things like the military and spending, but the whole states rights angle seemed to be completely ingrained in the modern conservative perspective.

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