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re: President Trump said Pfizer should stop taking advantage of Americans. It’s wrong.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:00 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:00 pm to AggieHank86
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People die. The US Constitution is not a guarantee that you will live forever.
Seriously, go frick yourself.
Drugs are out there that help people extend their life. Pfizer and others price people out of the market it is obscene.
Seriously go frick yourself.
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:01 pm to AggieHank86
quote:...of deciding who lives and who dies.
private health insurance industry is not in a position at this time to step back into its former position.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:03 pm to Jay Quest
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Inflated prices for essential medicines, is the moral equivalent of price gouging after a hurricane.
Precisely!
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:04 pm to asurob1
Melt
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:05 pm to roadGator
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Melt
LOL...it's my maga melt!
Team Trump (this time :P)
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:09 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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If he actually takes an aggressive stance toward reigning in big pharma and lowering healthcare costs, I might have to get fitted for a coat.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:10 pm to TBoy
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So what's he actually doing about it? A tweet isn't worth the electricity required to transmit it if the administration isn't actually doing anything about it.
More than you’re doing low Tboy so shut your pie hole.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:10 pm to asurob1
quote:I read somewhere that one has not proven himself as a libertarian until he is hated by both the Right and the Left. I guess I've earned my libertarian stripes.quote:Seriously, go frick yourself.
People die. The US Constitution is not a guarantee that you will live forever.
Drugs are out there that help people extend their life. Pfizer and others price people out of the market it is obscene.
Seriously go frick yourself.
Either one believes in the capitalist system (warts and all), or one does not ... and it is certainly true that non-production of unprofitable drugs is a "wart" in the system. Nonetheless, I do believe in the system. You do not.
Such is life ... or death.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:16 pm to GumboPot
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It's probably due to an FDA controlled market and lack of competition through regulation and not having a strong consumer advocate on your side. If we are going to live in the world of high regulations then we need a strong consumer advocate. If regulations did not exist then the free market could determine price more fairly.
Yep its the same reason I'm for net neutrality. If the government would regulate the shite out of this industry the free market would do what it was intended to do. Now we need government interference to fix it. Is it the right answer? No but it's better than what we have now.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:17 pm to the808bass
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No, he didn’t.
Oh yea? Were you there?
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:18 pm to TigerMyth36
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Both sides are owned by Big Pharma. The swamp will be all in on this one.
yeah but shame on Trump for wanting reasonable affordable prices for americans!! According to idiots here that makes him a socialist who wants no private ownership in pharma NOT a capitalist
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:18 pm to AggieHank86
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I read somewhere that one has not proven himself as a libertarian until he is hated by both the Right and the Left. I guess I've earned my libertarian stripes.
Either one believes in the capitalist system (warts and all), or one does not ... and it is certainly true that non-production of unprofitable drugs is a "wart" in the system. Nonetheless, I do believe in the system. You do not.
Such is life ... or death.
I'm sure your belief system will remain this exactly when your doctor tells you you can survive whatever disease is killing you in the future...but the drug will cost you 100K.
idiot.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:23 pm to AggieHank86
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POTUS: I am going to force companies to manufacture unprofitable drugs, because "feels."
I am also going to force companies to price their products as I think they should be priced, rather than acknowledging that the same product may have a different equilibrium price in different geopolitical markets.
Conservatism!!!!!
i think it is more about said drug companies selling the same product outside of the US at a much smaller cost. Just like the trade imbalance, why should Europe get subsidized by the US when it comes to prescription drugs.
I bet they can lower ours, and increase the EUs cost and still make plenty of money.....
Posted on 7/9/18 at 4:09 pm to AggieHank86
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Either one believes in the capitalist system (warts and all), or one does not ... and it is certainly true that non-production of unprofitable drugs is a "wart" in the system.
Is it really a capitalist system if a large percentage of the customer base is allowed to set price limits, effectively fobbing off to the rest of the customer base things like paying for research and development, marketing, and providing profits to the company?
I just read an article that said France pays 67% less than the US for drugs, Germany 51% less, Italy 53% less, Spain 55% less, the UK 57% less, Canada 65% less, Japan 43% less, Australia 60% less, and a worldwide average of 56% less than Americans pay for the same drugs. The world is going in dry on Americans, letting us subsidize their healthcare while we drain the bank accounts of the sick and elderly in this country, and we're supposed to be good with it or die because capitalism?
It sounds pretty easy to me, without going socialist. Why don't we just pass a law that says we pay the same price as Canada for drugs? Isn't that essentially what the countries I've mentioned have done?
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 7/9/18 at 4:13 pm to GumboPot
Liberals should love this kind of rhetoric, but instead they will do a complete 180 because of TDS. Sad.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:05 pm to Jay Quest
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Inflated prices for essential medicines
Inflated by whose definition? You want European drug prices? Fine. You want their gasoline prices? 5.50/gal in Germany, 6.00/gal in France.
Comparing consumer prices for drugs in the U.S. to government subsidized prices in Europe is an exercise in futility.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:13 pm to ljhog
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Inflated by whose definition? You want European drug prices? Fine. You want their gasoline prices? 5.50/gal in Germany, 6.00/gal in France.
Comparing consumer prices for drugs in the U.S. to government subsidized prices in Europe is an exercise in futility.
How much of that gasoline price is tax?
Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:18 pm to GumboPot
looks like I need to sell some drug stocks 
Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:19 pm to GumboPot
Giant Cock Don is a genius.
After that tweet, all of the boards of directors of all these pharmas are catching the redeye to have an emergency meeting at their respective headquarters to figure out how to get the costs down for the American people.
No law or regulation needed.
After that tweet, all of the boards of directors of all these pharmas are catching the redeye to have an emergency meeting at their respective headquarters to figure out how to get the costs down for the American people.
No law or regulation needed.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:39 pm to Jwho77
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and now he is helping the people of this country.
I mean, if it makes you feel better...sure, that's what he's doing.
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