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Posted on 7/31/20 at 11:20 am to
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10519 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 11:20 am to
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2) Got rid of my debt. Not spending money on stupid crap anymore like sports. Screw those traitors.

This one's a little strange. Since a lot of debt is never good, I can understand getting rid of debt especially if it's costing you a lot each month. But no need to pay off a big debt like a mortgage. If things really hit the fan at some point, I doubt anyone will be making or worrying about payments. Also, if the dollar tanks, those dollars will be worth a lot less than they are now.
This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 11:23 am
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13636 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 11:35 am to
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Owning gun and ammo is fine, but mobility will always rule......meaning, the ability to up and leave at a moments notice to anywhere that isn't dangerous. That goes for anything - country being attacked, disease outbreak, water shortage, anything that could have severe impact on potential death.




I agree with you if you live in an urban area.

I never would.

There are maybe 30 people within 5 miles of my farm. If things go to shite many of the people from the urban areas will move into rural areas looking for food or shelter. Their heads will be stuck on my T posts around the farm as a warning to others to keep on walking.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22790 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 11:56 am to
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Their heads will be stuck on my T posts around the farm as a warning to others to keep on walking.


Not calling you a liar, but are you really going to shoot women and children? Or just the husband as they eat/steal from your garden? I understand not shooting in this situation could mean you die. Horrible shite is going to happen.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57437 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 11:58 am to
for real, the best prep is to go ALL IN on debt with loans and use those loans to buy guns and ammo.

When the hyperinflation hits, your debt would be relatively worthless but your arsenal would be priceless

Hyperinflation is the ultimate transfer of wealth if you plan for it
This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Oldestlurkerever
Member since Jan 2020
262 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 12:12 pm to
I’ll just spotlight these damn racoons in my yard at night and shoot and eat them. If they are good enough for black people.............
Posted by street pizza
3 Highview Crescent, Coolaroo
Member since Dec 2010
1503 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 1:14 pm to
Okay, I'm in. Got a BB gun for Christmas just for funnsies. Realized I'm a really good shot. Fiance got me a 760 pump air gun (I don't know the terminology, he's the one with the guns.) In the past month I've killed 3 squirrels sitting on my front porch a mile south of LSU (know it's trashy and IDGAF.) In April we planted a small vegetable garden, again for funnsies, he'd only ever grown flowers and got extremely excited watching actual food grow. We planted muscadines, blackberries, asparagus, a pomegranate, okra, stevia, and a couple of herbs. I have a satsuma, kumquat, and fig tree all about 7 years old. I did 8 half-pints of fig preserves only because I really missed my grandmother's. Now I'm really looking into what I can dehydrate, vacuum seal, and preserve. The amount of food we wasted last year would have fed us for a year. On Monday when it rained all day we said "look, we should be catching that rain water!" Just ordered a 55 gallon catcher. I got my packet of 12 heirloom herbs yesterday, and should get the vegetables today. We are trimming the trees and saving the wood, composting anything else instead of putting it on the road. Hoping to get seed potatoes for a fall crop, and a few grow bags, as well as Jerusalem artichokes which are a great staple crop once you get used to the inulin which gives you gas. Also trying to stock up on canned goods. Got 12 cans of corn, green beans and black beans are on their way.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13636 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

Not calling you a liar, but are you really going to shoot women and children? Or just the husband as they eat/steal from your garden? I understand not shooting in this situation could mean you die. Horrible shite is going to happen.




I certainly would never want to shoot anyone. But if things fall apart like the OP was discussing, I would shoot anyone who I deem a threat. I sincerely hope that never happens but the lives of my family are worth a lot more to me than anyone else's,especially someone who is trespassing (and I assume looking to steal my supplies, that I need for my family).
Posted by Radiojones
The Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2007
10728 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 1:41 pm to
Buy some lifestraws - they are available on Amazon. Make sure you have a way to start a fire and stock up on more long term food.
Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3110 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 1:42 pm to
I put together a bug-out-bag when all of this crap started. Bought a shot gun to compliment the AR and handguns I already had. I've been trying to stock up on ammo, but that's a daunting task right now. I have been stockpiling some food and of course, TP. I have a cabin in the mountains to bug out to, if I could make it that far. Hopefully none of this will ever be necessary, but I try to live by the Boy Scout motto we were taught all those years ago.
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7096 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

All unnecessary


failure to prepare is to prepare for failure
Posted by street pizza
3 Highview Crescent, Coolaroo
Member since Dec 2010
1503 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 1:46 pm to
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start a fire

Magnifying glass?
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21497 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:34 pm to
So, where you gonna revolt? you going downtown and riot? Where? There isn't any armed force stopping you from getting food at the grocery store, its just like it is now, except they tell you , "no sir, you can't buy that food, you dont have a card." What you gonna do, shoot the cashier?? If you take it, then the police show up at your door....what then, you gonna shoot them?
Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2296 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:43 pm to
The Union Creek Journal
READ IT! Toby had a striking premonition.
Excerpt:
"In June, when things started to get really bad in the larger cities, there was also a bit of unrest in Norfolk. Much like the federal government, the city and county governments ran out of funding. Police and emergency services stopped responding. The local National Guard unit disbanded and took the equipment, weapons and supplies with them. Transportation came to a halt. Stores ran out of food and supplies.

There were a few folks who had prepared themselves, but many others who had not. It quickly became evident who was and who wasn’t prepared. Those who were unprepared became more and more desperate as what little they had ran out.

Apparently, Jake and his family typically bought a lot of things in bulk. Jake was also a hunter. That meant that they had quite a bit of meat in their deep freeze. Of course, once the grid power went down, the deep freeze went down with it. From what Laura said, one of Jake’s daughters suggested that they dry the meat to preserve it longer. Smart girl. Must take after her mother.

Eventually, it got to the point where it was nearly impossible for those who still had supplies to defend themselves from those who didn’t. Several of the members of my parents’ church decided to band together at the church to combine resources and make their stand against the looters. People were being burned out of their homes or shot for their supplies. The church members hoped that the brick church building would be more defensible than their mostly wood-frame homes.

It worked for a while. Most of the church members were hunters. They had hunting rifles and ammunition for the rifles. They held the looters at bay until the ammunition started to run low. Facing the reality that they wouldn’t be able to hold out much longer, they came up with a plan. Those with families would try to escape. Those without families would try to hold off the looters long enough to give them a chance to escape.
"
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
7042 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

I've got as of now is a shotgun, a rifle and a four wheel drive.


And a country boy can survive.. country boy cannnnnn suurrrvvviiivvvvvvveeeeeee

You've also gotta grow good old tomatoes and make homemade wine...

Country boy can survive....
This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 4:59 pm
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21497 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 5:10 pm to
"Live off the land?" This is the biggest misconception of survivalist. Yes, its good to live off the land, yes its good to know how to hunt and kill. BUT, in a survivalists situation where people are not obeying laws, the wildlife will disappear in just a few months (at the most). You're naive not to think so. rivers and lakes will be devastated as well. Unless you have a large number of people protecting a crop, crops will be confiscated by the government. (See Germany, WWII).
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64751 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 5:14 pm to
Canning is a staple of most rural families. Food, the well, fuel for the generator and ammo. Home made music to keep everyone happy.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 6:17 pm to
Everything can be excessive depending on your level of knowledge and understanding of gear function, but I always tell people that your pack is most often the best place to start when cutting weight. I've seen people carry everything from huge splitting axes to cast iron pots I'll give a basic breakdown of what to avoid and what I carry more often than not.

Packs- When I choose a pack, the first thing I look for is weight and carrying capacity. What that means is how much weight is the back designed to carry so that you can comfortably wear it. Not how much it will hold. Look for packs made from material that is both lightweight and tear resistant. Avoid packs with excessive zippers. straps, and pockets. More often than not, I am carrying a ULA Catalyst. ULA


Cook kits- Too often I see people with heavy steel kits containing multiple pots, utensils, cups, and even spatulas. I have one titanium pot that doubles as my cook pot and cup if I choose to bring a little bourbon with me on a trip. All of my meals are dehydrated, so all I have to do is boil water. Here is an excellent pot that I have used many times for many years. Toaks


Sleep system- People make the mistake here of thinking that heavier means more warmth, when in reality, 850 or better fill down and a good pad/underquilt will keep you more warm than that huge, rectangular bag lined with plaid will. I have two systems I use depending on where I am going. One for a tent and one for a hammock. My pad for the tent is a Neo-Air xlite made by thermarest.

I pair that with the same quilt I use in my hammock, which is the Hammock Gear Burrow. I have an underquilt form them as well. Temperature rating is important, but I tend to choose one rated for higher temperatures because if I know the temperatures are going to be cold, I will bring this liner with me. Sea to Summit I have been down to 13 degrees with a 40 degree top and underquilt in a hammock with no problems.




I'll continue with water filtration, shelter, and communication in another post later.

ETA:

Forgot to mention how I actually cook my food. Usually with a homemade, cat food alcohol stove like this one.



Very simple to make. I will carry my fuel in containers like these:

Vargo Alcohol Bottle

My fuel is never actually alcohol, although you could use that. I use this:



This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 6:58 pm
Posted by Linoge
Member since Jun 2013
1683 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 6:38 pm to
Thanks for the info brother! Going to look into these items. I would have been the idiot carrying around a bag weighing a 100 lbs or something.

Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

I would have been the idiot carrying around a bag weighing a 100 lbs or something.


Everyone starts somewhere
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4482 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 7:21 pm to
quote:

MrFreakinMiyagi



So what would you do if we lost the power grid? Or grocery stores ran out of food? Think it is not possible? People lost their shite in Katrina and pulled guns on people at gas stations. A virus had not even really begun to take hold in US and people went nuts and bought up toilet paper, paper towels, hand sanitizer, cleaner, etc. To this day, you still cannot find some items on shelves. You would be one of the first victims.
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