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re: Premise Iran wants to Nuke Israel and the US!
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:55 am to Taxing Authority
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:55 am to Taxing Authority
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The government would never lie about a fake threat.... again.
So you're doubling down on true. Well, we know that proposition is false, so thanks for playing, but you lose. But Johnny has some Turtle Wax for you as a consolation prize for playing.
BTW, the government didn't lie about the Iraq intel. They had incorrect intel, and they believed it. And it wasn't only the US who drew that conclusion based on the intel, other countries did too.
The Democrats spun it after the fact for political reasons and rhymed, "Bush lied, people died," but based on the information we had at the time, the majority of them voted for it too (yeah, the people here act like Congress didn't vote on that war and that Congress hasn't approved a war since WWII, but they did). Hilary Clinton voted for it based on the intel we had.
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Remember Trump said in July 2024 Iran's nuclear program was obliterated. Then, this operation was about "regeime change". Then he didn't care if the Strait of Hormuz was opened. Now he's threatening to end their civilzation if they don't open it.
Yeah, just like Trump said tariff were to replace income tax, then he said they were to bring jobs back, then he said they were to force other countries to remove their tariffs.
I don't know where all you people have been for about 12 years, but this is hat Trump does. This is how he "communicates."
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If you aren't a bit skeptical I won't be able to help you.
Likewise, if you really think that past actions = future ones, I won't be able to help you.
But this where I think you guys are misrepresenting my position. I never said you couldn't be skeptical, nor did I say I wasn't skeptical myself.
What I said is that at this point, none of us know. None of us have a basis to come to a solid conclusion one way or another. I don't object to someone not having a good feeling about what's going on there...as long as they realize it's a feeling that may or may not conform to reality.
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:56 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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No. We devastated their ability to enrich more uranium - not their entire program. They have 400 plus pounds of already enriched uranium, to put it in perspective that’s almost as much as your mom weighs
Is that material weapons grade?
Is it even close?
Experts say it is not even close and would take years from now.
To put it into perspective your mom has been cucking your father almost as long as it would take for them to enrich the material.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:56 am to DieMannschaft26
quote:He's Camacho from Idiocracy.
Trump is a wwe actor
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:57 am to wackatimesthree
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BTW, the government didn't lie about the Iraq intel. They had incorrect intel, and they believed it. And it wasn't only the US who drew that conclusion based on the intel, other countries did too
You know who knew, but decided to lie anyway?
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:57 am to UtahCajun
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Wish I could post a vid, but would a video going back to 1996 be good enough? Ole Bibi saying the exact same thing.
No, I saw the video, and I stand corrected.
I was wrong, thanks for the correction.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:00 am to wackatimesthree
quote:Keep trusting government. They'll do better next time.
So you're doubling down on true. Well, we know that proposition is false, so thanks for playing, but you lose ... BTW, the government didn't lie about the Iraq intel. They had incorrect intel, and they believed it..
quote:You're the one telling me to trust Trump Sorry, man. One does not establish "credibility" by a history of bluffing and lying.
Yeah, just like Trump said tariff were to replace income tax, then he said they were to bring jobs back, then he said they were to force other countries to remove their tariffs.
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Likewise, if you really think that past actions = future ones, I won't be able to help you.
This is why guys stay married to cheaters. This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 9:03 am
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:00 am to UtahCajun
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You know who knew, but decided to lie anyway?
What's the evidence for that? If you have some I will consider it.
Otherwise the official story is corroborated by not only the Democrats who voted for the war in Congress, but by the intelligence community of the UK, France, Germany, Russia, and Israel.
Sure, they could all have been lying. Do you really think that's the likeliest conclusion?
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:19 am to Tiger985
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But even if someday they developed a bomb the world would adapt and adjust. It's not something we want to happen of course but we would manage it just fine.
It's crazy how naive some people are. We would just "adjust" to more terrorist attacks since Iran would be unstoppable.
I see you love the European approach to dealing with Islamic terrorists. We'll just pretend everything is fine while the violence escalates.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:29 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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Iran would be unstoppable.
Would you just listen to yourself.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:30 am to TigerPlate
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Facts are that by Iran's own admission they had enough enriched uranium to make 10 nuclear bombs.
Iran also admitted to blowing up multiple US aircraft carriers.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:34 am to Taxing Authority
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Keep falling for the bait.
Are chemical weapons WMDs? Iraq used them on the Kurds and their own people. I thought they were WMDs.
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 9:35 am
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:39 am to wackatimesthree
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Why does Israel get nuclear weapons?
They aren't a fundamentalist theocratic state with the stated agenda to destroy their neighbor.
LOL Come again?
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Biden stated he would use force to keep Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons in 2022.
Oh, so we're just using the Biden playbook now? No big deal.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 10:21 am to UtahCajun
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You know who knew, but decided to lie anyway?
Asked and answered.
Sure, it's possible that France, the UK, the US, Israel, and Russia all independently decided to lie.
That's possible.
I kind of think it's moronic to think it's likely, though.
What do you think?
Posted on 4/7/26 at 10:22 am to Taxing Authority
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You're the one telling me to trust Trump
Nope.
But you know you're losing when you have to lie about what someone has said.
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This is why guys stay married to cheaters.
Speaking of knowing when someone is losing. You're above that one. Or at least I thought you were.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 10:24 am to UPT
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LOL Come again?
Israel is not a theocratic state. Netanyahu is an atheist. You're being stupid right now. Nor has Israel ever pledged to destroy any nation. Not that I know of...do you have a link?
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:05 am to wackatimesthree
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Otherwise the official story is corroborated by not only the Democrats who voted for the war in Congress, but by the intelligence community of the UK, France, Germany, Russia, and Israel.
Yossi Sarid and Ehud Yatom leading members of Israel's defense and intelligence committee knew.
Hell, in hidsight, everybody knew. The very same watchdog agencies that are telling us Iran is years away from nuclear weapons told us Iraq had no WMDs. We still fell for it once. Hell, I fell for it once. Never again.
I mean, how many times does our government have to feed us false info to get us into military action before you start saying hmmmm?
The last two major conflicts we were in were based on fabricated information.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:07 am to TigerPlate
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People who oppose the US and Israel's actions against Iran must not believe that Iran would use a NUKE if they had one. Facts are that by Iran's own admission they had enough enriched uranium to make 10 nuclear bombs. By the ICBM attack on Diego Garcia they had the range to reach Europe. If left unimpeded they would have the capability to Nuke the target of choice within a 2K mile range. So what other option do these people who oppose US involvement offer to resolve the problem. I am trying to understand the opposing position but I just do not understand. Of course TDS factors into some of this.
People either believe this or they don't. I happen to believe Iran is a festering problem with nothing but bad intentions.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:09 am to TigerPlate
You can’t reason with people who actively strap bombs to themselves in the name of their false prophet.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:11 am to msutiger
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Why does Israel get nuclear weapons?
Their country is not run by ideological nut jobs who threaten to use them on others they dislike
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