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re: Premise Iran wants to Nuke Israel and the US!

Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:21 am to
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:21 am to
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Taxing Authority


T or F: Past events dictate future events.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:23 am to
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They have been two weeks away from a nuke for twenty years. 

I'm not sure why your downvotes/upvotes are 50/50 on this statement. It's been roughly 20 years that I've been closely following politics, and this is accurate. Since right around the time Saddam Hussein was removed from power, Iran has been "just a few [weeks/months] away from attaining a nuke".

Maybe it has been true at some point, but this "cried wolf" crap became stale long ago.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:24 am to
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Propaganda by whom?
The Iranian delegation claimed it had enough fissile material to build 11 nuclear bombs. That was their claim


Right and wrong. They had enough U235 to make about 10 or 11 weapons

BUT

It was nowhere near enriched enough and all enrichment sites were destroyed in 2025.

They were years away and all independant experts admit to that.

Of course, it isn't like our government has ever, and I mean never, lied to the public prior to military actions.

It is always the same hawks who fall for it. Someday, they will wake up and realize they lived in fear their entire lives.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70486 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:24 am to
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Has Israel's stated purpose for decades been to wipe all mooslums out of existence?


No, but they are committing ethnic cleansing in their Muslim majority occupied territories.

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Has Israel sponsored terrorism for decades?


Yes. Look into Al Qaeda and ISIS’s funding too far and you’ll find Israeli purses pulling the strings.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13486 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:26 am to
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My point exactly. Maybe the evacuation was handled as well as it possibly could have been given the circumstances. We don't know.


I thought that was my point.

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How do you know that?


Because Bush has publicly admitted that the intel was wrong. You think he's lying?

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This is just a black pill applied to any and all military operations. I'm not swallowing that.


That's fine, but you didn't answer my question.

Upon what basis do you assume you are correct in your assessments, given nether the perspective of hindsight nor the military intelligence that led the people in charge to come to the conclusions they came to?

Your gut feelings?

"A 30.06 can't not leave an exit wound!" style conclusion?
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 8:29 am
Posted by Lizardman2
Member since Jan 2024
2762 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:27 am to
The Arms Control Association concluded that Iran reached a "threshold" state with enough enriched uranium for fuel, but mastering the remaining technologies for an implosion-style device would take significantly longer.
Also, in 2025, a DIA report concluded that Iran didn't have ballistic missiles capable of hitting the U.S. and might not achieve such a capability until 2035 or later.

Quit the fear porn.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13486 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:27 am to
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It's been roughly 20 years that I've been closely following politics, and this is accurate.


Link it going back that far, then.

I can find three public statements to that effect, in 2021 and 2022.

I'm convinced based on my failed efforts to find anything else that this "20 years" claim is nonsense, but I'm willing to stand corrected.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:28 am to
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Premise Iran wants to Nuke Israel and the US!

You would have to be mentally ill to fall for something this stupid
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2925 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:30 am to
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Netanyahu has been begging for this war for 30 years


yes! you've stumbled on to it haven't you! it's the jews! hitler may have been on to something! before the war you couldn't find a doctor in berlin who wasn't jewish!

the level at which you people are willing to debase yourself to stop trump is truly amazing would you bite the head of a live chicken if it would stop trump?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13486 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:31 am to
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The admin has access to all sorts of economic information on other countries that we don't have, so maybe we shouldn't question something like a tariff.


What information would Trump have about other countries that would change the math on tariffs?

What could he know about other countries that would allow him to take water out of just one end of the pool?

Sorry, but its apples and catcher's mitts.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:32 am to
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T or F: Past events dictate future events.
Keep falling for the bait.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173725 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:32 am to
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Propaganda by whom?
The Iranian delegation claimed it had enough fissile material to build 11 nuclear bombs. That was their claim.

According to an unverified phone conversation with someone who is probably conveniently dead

You're useless if you fell for that as "proof"
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13486 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:34 am to
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Keep falling for the bait.


That sounded like you answered true.

They say you shouldn't change your answers on this kind of test, but in this case you might want to.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63343 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:37 am to
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That sounded like you answered true.
GULP! THey hooked you in the anus. The government would never lie about a fake threat.... again.

Remember Trump said in July 2024 Iran's nuclear program was obliterated. Then, this operation was about "regeime change". Then he didn't care if the Strait of Hormuz was opened. Now he's threatening to end their civilzation if they don't open it. It' silly.

If you aren't a bit skeptical I won't be able to help you.
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 8:38 am
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:39 am to
You left out the first goal which was to free the Iranian people.

Now 5 weeks later Trump is ready to genocide these same people
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 8:40 am
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15122 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:39 am to
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Why does Israel get nuclear weapons?


Most countries, including Israel, are nuclear as a deterrent.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5647 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:43 am to
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Has Israel's stated purpose for decades been to wipe all mooslums out of existence?
Has Israel sponsored terrorism for decades?

Judging by actions and not words...yes. And not only Muslims, but the Christians as well.
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Israel has not proven itself to be a fanatical death cult that kills its own citizens for protesting in the streets

But they will willingly let them die to terror attacks even when their intelligence had ample warning to stop said attacks. They will even let our troops die in attacks like Beirut. They knew about that plan weeks in advance but decided to both allow it and not tell us furthered their goals more than to tell us.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5647 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:47 am to
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Link it going back that far, then.



Wish I could post a vid, but would a video going back to 1996 be good enough? Ole Bibi saying the exact same thing.

Iran is close to nukes
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5647 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:49 am to
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dickkellog

Proof that inbreeding leads to retardation.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
24844 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:49 am to
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We supposedly devastated their nuclear capabilities months ago but now we need a full scale war?


No. We devastated their ability to enrich more uranium - not their entire program. They have 400 plus pounds of already enriched uranium, to put it in perspective that’s almost as much as your mom weighs.


They have now exhibited the ability to launch ballistic missiles with range to hit Europe. They had a lot of the steps completed and posed a high risk. One that every president since Carter mentioned but only one did something about.
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