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re: Popular Christian Singer Lauren Daigle Not Sure If Homosexuality Is A Sin...
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:21 pm to roadGator
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:21 pm to roadGator
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Actually it is true. Your narcissism is showing once again.
Lol. How is it true? How is it fact? I don't want to hear about your beliefs I want to hear how it's fact.
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:24 pm to Masterag
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paul's letter to the romans, bro. NOT bible god's word. do you worship paul?
Romans has been considered scripture since New Testament times. It is not even debatable whether or not Christians have accepted Romans as part of the Bible.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:25 pm to Ebbandflow
Pointing out a sin isn't hate. You are just a snowflake.
Two facts
Two facts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:31 pm to ctiger69
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You sound like a bigot.
I tend to reserve the term bigot for judging people for things over which they have no control, like race or sex. Religion is something you should have control over, and make a conscious choice for - not to be indoctrinated into as a child.
That said, I was raised to be both tolerant and respectful of all religions. However in recent years, with all the Islam intolerance I've noticed coming from Christians, I realize that not only are many religious people intolerant of other religions, but it has made less and less sense for me to respect people that believe in ridiculous shite. If I told you I believed in the Easter Bunny, I wouldn't expect you to me respect me for my beliefs. So you shouldn't expect me to respect you for believing in some medieval fantasy world.
When they asked the carpenter what was most important, he said the first two Commandments: to love God and love one another. If I saw Christians living according to what their god said is MOST IMPORTANT, I would have more respect for them.
Judge me not, lest ye be judged.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:32 pm to Music_City_Tiger
There may be some things the Bible is ambiguous about, but faggotry is not one of them. It’s plain in both the OT or the NT.
And although any sin makes us fall short, it is a fact that some sins are worse than others. That’s why different ones had different punishments.
And although any sin makes us fall short, it is a fact that some sins are worse than others. That’s why different ones had different punishments.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:37 pm to Geauxboy
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I can't imagine that dismissing the rational-thought process for the sake of lock-step dogma is good for anyone.
Explain a little more, please.
Sure.
99% of the responses in this thread claiming that homosexuality is a sin is "because the Bible says so", or some form of it. That is a textbook case of Appeal to Authority. I'd be interested in hearing how homosexuality should be considered a sin without a reference to the Bible.
Clearly this is easy with things like murder, rape, and theft - as they violate the natural laws of consent. It's also easy with thinks like adultery as it violates the sanctity and trust of commitment.
Homosexuality and premarital sex are more difficult arguments. And even within these categories there are acts/actions that are morally worse than others.
My problem with "the Bible says so" argument is that the Bible is riddled with contradictions, has a history of human edits and decisions to leave text in or out, and was absolutely written by mortals. A rational thought process into these questions would naturally include a questioning of its authority.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:39 pm to Masterag
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case in point, i've never met a single christian who doesn't eat shellfish or catfish or pork for religious purposes.
Bible is clear on that. You are the one missing it.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:40 pm to BayouBlitz
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So Genesis is a bunch of BS too? Or is that still gospel, but not the rest of the Old Testament?
Do I have to keep up with which books of the Old Testament are cool and which ones aren't?
No, it's called rightly dividing the word of God.
As in, making sure your interpretation is not at odds with other scriptures.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:41 pm to Ebbandflow
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You don't get to pass judgement down. You can call what you want to sin in your own head but the moment you project it onto someone else you are passing on extremely negative energy
That's not what the scriptures say.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:43 pm to Ebbandflow
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I don't want to hear about your beliefs I want to hear how it's fact.
Does not mean it's not fact.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:43 pm to Music_City_Tiger
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I can't say one way or the other. I'm not God."
This is the perfect response to the question of whether or not homosexuality is a sin. We know homosexuality goes back thousands of years so it's certainly nothing new, just more accepted and in the open now. I certainly respect all people regardless of who they choose to love or who they just fall in love with. I personally don't care if it's a choice or not. Love who you love and live your life.
Life is too short to worry about men who love other men or women who love other women. Society's problem, in my opinion, rests with the fact that we make homosexuality mostly a political and religious issue as opposed to just a human aspect.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:47 pm to hawkeye007
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as soon as christian's give up pork, allow men to have as many wife's as they want and bring back slavery then i will start believing being Gay is a sin. Because the good book says everything i just listed is a sin.
this bears repeating
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:47 pm to ctiger69
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You sound like a bigot.
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The older I get, the more like Islam Christianity looks.
He sounds more like a fool.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:47 pm to Antonio Moss
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Sure.
99% of the responses in this thread claiming that homosexuality is a sin is "because the Bible says so", or some form of it. That is a textbook case of Appeal to Authority. I'd be interested in hearing how homosexuality should be considered a sin without a reference to the Bible.
Well... Since we are talking about Christianity and sin, I think the Bible would need to be the authority on it.
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Bible is riddled with contradictions,
Nope.
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has a history of human edits and decisions to leave text in or out,
You mean unverified writings...
Why would they be included?
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:50 pm to Antonio Moss
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I'd be interested in hearing how homosexuality should be considered a sin without a reference to the Bible.
Sin is a distinctively religious term which depends on God as an authority. Homosexuality is sin because it goes against God’s declared and created order. This is the historical Christian position, and you do not have to agree.
I do not think homosexuality should be outlawed. I also don’t think the government has any role in regulating marriage.
If two men want to get together and claim they are married that is fine, but Christian’s are not forced to celebrate it or recognize it. Just as you are not forced to recognize The Bible as truth.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:51 pm to SSpaniel
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Inspired by God. Written by God through Paul.
says paul
it's an interesting bit of psychology that keeps us in mental slavery with regard to religion.
if a guy named paul wrote a letter a few weeks ago that he claimed was divinely inspired, we'd call him a fool and he'd get laughed out of town.
but some guy named paul writes a letter two thousand years ago, and it's the inspired word of god.
seems pretty absurd to me
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:52 pm to Jjdoc
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Bible is clear on that. You are the one missing it.
it's clear that it's an abomination, i'm not sure what i'm missing here. please clarify
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:52 pm to Seldom Seen
Preachers are afraid to say it from the pulpit. She's probably never heard it from a pastor so she doesn't know.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:54 pm to jacob4bama
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I will be glad to talk to the objective observer, but don’t think you are being objective.
I have never been a member of any religion, have never had any religious training, and the most 'Christian' thing about me is simply that I share Abraham's Covenant.
That's the objectivity to which I refer. You may get defensive, but keep in mind that most of the world dos not share your view of God, and therefore look upon Christianity from the outside. And from there, your shite looks like a loony bin full of hypocrisy and contradictions.
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To be fair to your argument there are plenty of Christians that are clowns.
To the Jews, pretty much all Christians are clowns at best, followers of a false prophet at worst.
Yes, I usually lose my tolerance around Yuletide these days. Probably all the Christian idiots crying about a war on Christmas while standing in front of a secular tree.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:54 pm to Ebbandflow
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Maybe she should find something new to sing about then.
Maybe a different made up deity that doesn't make her have to hate on someone
Pretty stupid to suggest that simply calling out behavior equates to hatred.
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