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re: Pompeo: Saudi oil attacks an 'act of war' by Iran
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:50 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:50 pm to Darth_Vader
If it wasn’t for the invasion of Iraq, Iran would be seen as better friends to the USA than Saudi Arabia.
Hell, I may trust Iran more than Saudi Arabia.
Hell, I may trust Iran more than Saudi Arabia.
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Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:50 pm to SCLibertarian
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Trump's natural inclination is against war. We've seen that time and time again. It's why I will be voting for him.
Not enough people fully understand this because the left wing MSM keep pushing the narrative that he wants to go to war with someone.
They've never really understood his methodology but, in fact, it is very Reaganesque.
Bombing them is not "going to war." What the Bushes did was go to war. Bombing is simply sending a message.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:54 pm to Redleg Guy
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Hell, I may trust Iran more than Saudi Arabia.
Shia Islam (Iran) is far less dangerous to us than the radical Sunni doctrines funded worldwide by the Saudi's. Al Qaeda isn't Shia, ISIS isn't Shia, the Muslim Brotherhood isn't Shia, Al Shabaab isn't Shia and Al Nusra isn't Shia.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:55 pm to Dead End
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Let them fight.
They can solve their own problems.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:56 pm to troyt37
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If we pay more at the pump, to the tune of billions of dollars, are we really out of it? Or are the American people a principle victim?
If you believe that any event in the world that may affect the American consumer necessitates US military action, then you must also believe, given the Constitutional restriction on the military to national defense, that every square inch of the planet belongs to the US.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:56 pm to cwill
quote:Pompeo is Trump’s most effective henchmen, of course you want him gone.
I wish this dude would have followed Bolton out of the door.
But you better get used to him bc he ain’t going anywhere. Buckle up, buttercup
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:59 pm to MrLarson
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Because eventually we'd send troops.
Why? The last think Trump wants is war, and he has proven that several times now. The risk of alienating his base, for allowing the mullahs to victimize the American taxpayer without repercussion, is real.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 1:00 pm to DownSouthJukin
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We need to stay the hell out of this.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 1:02 pm to troyt37
How are American taxpayers victimized by an attack on Saudi Arabia’s oil export infrastructure? By higher prices at the pump? What about all of the thousands upon thousands of well-paying jobs higher prices would create for American workers in oil country?
What, are we going to invade South Africa and seize control of their diamond mines because engagement rings are getting too expensive?
We’re no longer reliant on Saudi oil. We’re a net exporter. Their loss makes our supply more valuable. They’re a market competitor.
What, are we going to invade South Africa and seize control of their diamond mines because engagement rings are getting too expensive?
We’re no longer reliant on Saudi oil. We’re a net exporter. Their loss makes our supply more valuable. They’re a market competitor.
This post was edited on 9/18/19 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 9/18/19 at 1:05 pm to troyt37
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Why? The last think Trump wants is war, and he has proven that several times now. The risk of alienating his base, for allowing the mullahs to victimize the American taxpayer without repercussion, is real.
Because DC will be frothing at the mouth for it.
They are claiming we are now energy independent, let's find out and tell them they need to handle their own problem.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 1:08 pm to kingbob
Historically, the US has not had a good relationship with Iran. This admin has a hard on for Iran. Trump has been outspoken in the past, blasting Obama’s efforts to play nice with Iran, and Pompeo is now being outspoken.
The Sunni are more radical than the Shia, so there is not much incentive to support Sunni Saudi Arabia. However, the Saudi govt has played nicer with the US than Iran has.
But we’ll have to see if there is anything happening other than “talk”.
The Sunni are more radical than the Shia, so there is not much incentive to support Sunni Saudi Arabia. However, the Saudi govt has played nicer with the US than Iran has.
But we’ll have to see if there is anything happening other than “talk”.
This post was edited on 9/18/19 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 9/18/19 at 1:08 pm to tigerpawl
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I fail to see why we need permission to do this. The rest of the countries (in general) are timid little wallflowers.
We don't but apparently it makes other countries feel all warm and fuzzy when we tell them we would like their help.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 1:09 pm to TideCPA
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If you believe that any event in the world that may affect the American consumer necessitates US military action, then you must also believe, given the Constitutional restriction on the military to national defense, that every square inch of the planet belongs to the US.
It's your strawman, I'll let you flog it to death. I completely supported Trump shrugging off the tanker bombings, and the downing of the drone. Iran realized pretty quick that this piddly shite wasn't enough of a provocation. They should have Trump's attention now, and we can all rest assured that not bombing the frick out of them for their previous bullshite was probably a mistake. Now the American taxpayer gets to pay billions for that mistake.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 1:11 pm to troyt37
It is a provocation...against Great Britain and Saudi Arabia. Why can’t they stick up for themselves? The U.S. is not under attack, so why should our sons and daughters die to protect a bunch of rich spoiled sheiks and Brits?
Posted on 9/18/19 at 1:17 pm to kingbob
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How are American taxpayers victimized by an attack on Saudi Arabia’s oil export infrastructure? By higher prices at the pump? What about all of the thousands upon thousands of well-paying jobs higher prices would create for American workers in oil country?
This is stupid. Even if it is thousands upon thousands of well-paying jobs, millions upon millions are getting the bill for it.
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What, are we going to invade South Africa and seize control of their diamond mines because engagement rings are getting too expensive?
This is incredibly stupid. Really not even worthy of comment. I would ask, what kind of gas mileage does your engagement ring get for your commute to work?
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We’re no longer reliant on Saudi oil. We’re a net exporter. Their loss makes our supply more valuable. They’re a market competitor.
I'm certainly no expert, but you don't have to be an expert to grasp the concept of supply and demand. Might want to brush up on that, as you beat your chest about the US being a net exporter.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 1:24 pm to kingbob
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It is a provocation...against Great Britain and Saudi Arabia.
And any other country that consumes oil. How far did you ride your bicycle today?
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The U.S. is not under attack, so why should our sons and daughters die to protect a bunch of rich spoiled sheiks and Brits?
First, if our sons and daughters signed up with the military to have the birth of their babies paid for and to wear really cool clothes, that's on them.
Second, boots on the ground in Iran has two chances, slim and none.
Third, the fact that the American people will be out billions of dollars in higher gas prices belies the assertion that we are insulated from this action.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 1:27 pm to Darth_Vader
Let them fight it out.F#@k them both.
We don't need their oil.
Saudi Arabia has plenty of weapons.They bought them from us.
Use them.
Don't expect us to go war for your corrupt mussy royals.
We don't need their oil.
Saudi Arabia has plenty of weapons.They bought them from us.
Use them.
Don't expect us to go war for your corrupt mussy royals.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 1:37 pm to SCLibertarian
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Our obsession with Iran makes zero sense to me when the Saudi's are the true evil.
Meh, two sides of the same coin.
But we are allied with one evil, that's why we 'obsess' over the other one.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 2:06 pm to Darth_Vader
I mean yeah blowing up a countries oil supply is usually an act of war
Posted on 9/18/19 at 2:27 pm to gthog61
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I wish you would go away but we can’t have everything.
What’s the deal with these whimpering threads at every utterance about Iran?
Perish the thought that we might offend them!
Where have you gone bob corker? Save us!
You seem very, very mad...are you ok?
Putting that aside, I don't get the love for Pompeo. He's the opposite of Trump's good trait of avoiding military entanglements and he's one of the key figures in the pursuit and ultimate arrest of the trumpian hero, Julian Assange.
Any utterance this guy makes regarding Iran has to be viewed through the Bolton prism...he wants this war, like his pal. I'd rather leave this to the arabs and persians.
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