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Pompeo: Saudi oil attacks an 'act of war' by Iran
Posted on 9/18/19 at 11:58 am
Posted on 9/18/19 at 11:58 am
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U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo described the weekend attacks on Saudi oil facilities as an "act of war" and that they were an "Iranian attack" on one of the world's largest oil processing facilities.
Pompeo, speaking from Jeddah, Saudi Arabia on Wednesday, said that even if the "fraudulent claims" of responsibility by the Yemen Houthis rebels were true, "it doesn't change the fingerprints of the Ayatollah as having put at risk the global energy supply."
His comments come hours after President Trump tweeted that he had ordered Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin to “substantially increase sanctions” imposed on Iran, amid escalating tensions between the two countries. Trump has not publicly stated that Iran was behind the weekend attack that knocked out almost half of Saudi Arabia’s oil capacity but others in his administration have.
Fox News
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Posted on 9/18/19 at 11:59 am to Darth_Vader
I wish this dude would have followed Bolton out of the door.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:01 pm to Darth_Vader
I suspect this language is being used to try to invoke some treaty obligations. Let SA decide whether this is an act of war against them and then let them deal with it. We have certainly sold them enough arms to handle their own military affairs. It is not an act of war against US.
We need to stay the hell out of this.
We need to stay the hell out of this.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:02 pm to Darth_Vader
Good
Now tell the goat frickers in Riyadh to use all that shiney new hardware Trump sold them in 2017 and leave us the frick out of it.
Now tell the goat frickers in Riyadh to use all that shiney new hardware Trump sold them in 2017 and leave us the frick out of it.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:03 pm to Darth_Vader
I'm super cool with us dropping bombs on their military infrastructure, their war ships, their military unit barracks, they nuclear enrichment facilities, etc., I just don't want to see us invade the country.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:04 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:
We need to stay the hell out of this.
Or this could be Trump's Iraq/WMD blunder that stops him in his tracks for 2020.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:07 pm to Darth_Vader
So this is an act of war, but Saudi Arabia using our weapons and money to drone bomb and kill thousands of Yemeni civilians isn't? Are the Houthi's supposed to stand aside and let Saudi Arabia install a regime comprised of members of Al-Islah? That's the Yemeni equivalent of the Muslim Brotherhood. Our obsession with Iran makes zero sense to me when the Saudi's are the true evil.
This post was edited on 9/18/19 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:09 pm to SCLibertarian
Which is why we should let them fight it out, then knock down whomever is left standing.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:11 pm to PsychTiger
quote:WTI current trading lower; -$1.50... go figure.
Pompeo: Saudi oil attacks an 'act of war' by Iran
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:18 pm to Darth_Vader
I think Trump is trying to give the Ayatollah enough rope to hang himself (so to speak).
Without extremely definitive evidence of direct Iranian government involvement there will be many countries reluctant to support any military action on our part (or that of our allies) and that's to say nothing about the rhetoric Congress would generate (especially with the Presidential election coming up).
Trump's reversal on the bombing of their radar facilities, his reluctance to get into verbal spats (like he did with Lil' Bomberman) and relying only on more economic sanctions will be perceived by the Iranian government as weakness. That perceived weakness will feed the desire to more and more push boundaries.
It's basic human nature to test boundaries. Being able to push and push without incurring some meaningful penalty does nothing but encourage more pushing that eventually becomes more extreme.
The more events that happen without a serious military retaliation, the more brazen the Iranians will become. Eventually they'll get to the point where their involvement is undeniable and their action is egregious enough to for most sectors to remand serious repercussions.
At that point we cut the Iranian government off at the fricking knees.
Without extremely definitive evidence of direct Iranian government involvement there will be many countries reluctant to support any military action on our part (or that of our allies) and that's to say nothing about the rhetoric Congress would generate (especially with the Presidential election coming up).
Trump's reversal on the bombing of their radar facilities, his reluctance to get into verbal spats (like he did with Lil' Bomberman) and relying only on more economic sanctions will be perceived by the Iranian government as weakness. That perceived weakness will feed the desire to more and more push boundaries.
It's basic human nature to test boundaries. Being able to push and push without incurring some meaningful penalty does nothing but encourage more pushing that eventually becomes more extreme.
The more events that happen without a serious military retaliation, the more brazen the Iranians will become. Eventually they'll get to the point where their involvement is undeniable and their action is egregious enough to for most sectors to remand serious repercussions.
At that point we cut the Iranian government off at the fricking knees.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:20 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:27 pm to cwill
I wish you would go away but we can’t have everything.
What’s the deal with these whimpering threads at every utterance about Iran?
Perish the thought that we might offend them!
Where have you gone bob corker? Save us!
What’s the deal with these whimpering threads at every utterance about Iran?
Perish the thought that we might offend them!
Where have you gone bob corker? Save us!
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:28 pm to Bard
quote:I fail to see why we need permission to do this. The rest of the countries (in general) are timid little wallflowers.
Without extremely definitive evidence of direct Iranian government involvement there will be many countries reluctant to support any military action on our part
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:31 pm to gthog61
Well, these situations are always interesting to see which way Trump supporters go. I tend to despise anything that hints of neocon and don't want him to get roped into this garbage. Let our Saudi friends figure it out.
This post was edited on 9/18/19 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:36 pm to gthog61
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What’s the deal with these whimpering threads at every utterance about Iran?
Trump's natural inclination is against war. We've seen that time and time again. It's why I will be voting for him. But DC is infested with people who are as messianic about America being the world's police as Islamists are about spreading Sharia. That's what worries me. And there isn't much difference between a neocon and a jihadi when it comes to foreign policy save the doctrine they're trying to spread.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:45 pm to Darth_Vader
Let them fight.
They can solve their own problems.
They can solve their own problems.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:47 pm to Darth_Vader
Cue all the resident Liberal-tarians, saying we should stay out of it. As if saying it makes it so.
If we pay more at the pump, to the tune of billions of dollars, are we really out of it? Or are the American people a principle victim?
If we pay more at the pump, to the tune of billions of dollars, are we really out of it? Or are the American people a principle victim?
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:48 pm to bamarep
I read a comment by Patrick Lang, former defense attaché, that made me laugh.
When he was there in the 80s, the Saudis would just turn off their air defense systems on Friday afternoons.
Working weekends was inconvenient. And the Saudis didn’t do that.
When he was there in the 80s, the Saudis would just turn off their air defense systems on Friday afternoons.
Working weekends was inconvenient. And the Saudis didn’t do that.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:50 pm to troyt37
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If we pay more at the pump, to the tune of billions of dollars, are we really out of it? Or are the American people a principle victim?
I'd be willing to pay more at the pump than I would risking American lives in another shithole ME country. Because eventually we'd send troops.
Hopefully Trump won't get roped into this.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:50 pm to troyt37
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If we pay more at the pump, to the tune of billions of dollars, are we really out of it? Or are the American people a principle victim?
This would be OUTSTANDING for the economies of Louisiana and Texas. There are so many marginal oil fields offshore and onshore that simply are not profitable at the current price of oil. This has led to massive job losses in Louisiana especially. High oil prices would jump start our economy while also creating a massive financial windfall which could be used to invest in infrastructure.
I say, let Saudi Arabia fight Iran over the damages to Saudi Arabia’s infrastructure. Louisiana and Texas will be happy to sell our oil at higher prices. Their loss is our gain.
This post was edited on 9/18/19 at 12:55 pm
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