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re: Politico: 3 Scenarios That Explain the Epstein Debacle

Posted on 7/16/25 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
5497 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 12:08 pm to
Like you would accept that explanation, y’all have painted yourself into a corner where nothing short of arrests will do lol good luck with Kamala!
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 12:09 pm to
Yea that’d probably piss a few people off but it would largely fade quickly if that’s the approach taken. A few people would hang on to the gov covering for pedos but most would drop it and move on. By going scorched earth it pretty much guarantees that any disclosure, including full disclosure, will leave most questioning the contents or extent.

If a dem admin fought tooth and nail in the press over something like this and then begrudgingly threw out some meat after screaming at anyone who asked for a month, would anyone here believe they fully disclosed the entire truth?

Going agro instead of playing dumb was a miscalculation. They had plenty of opportunity to blame the biden admin for scrubbing the file or whatever but they blew right past that instead with the whole “the epstein thing never happened and it was all made up by obama”
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 12:44 pm
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6204 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 12:11 pm to
Lets don't forget that Acosta is the one that gave Epstein a sweetheart deal that was unbelievable in what 2006 or 2007. A republican administration and Acosta was later made a Labor Sec by Trump. Was that a favor?
Posted by Ozarkshillbilly
Missouri Ozarks
Member since Apr 2025
342 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 12:11 pm to
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After a review of the depositions and material they found out the CIA and foreign intelligence were neck deep in this whole thing and were convinced by TPTB that revealing that would be such a shitshow that it was “better for the whole country” just to let it go.


I'll take what is the option with the highest probability of being correct for 800 Alex.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 12:12 pm to
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Epstein lawyer said


Who is also trump’s lawyer. You knew that, right?
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
25734 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 12:13 pm to
If that’s the case, you won’t get any 2020 election disclosure either.
Posted by Ozarkshillbilly
Missouri Ozarks
Member since Apr 2025
342 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 12:19 pm to
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If that’s the case, you won’t get any 2020 election disclosure either.


Probably true. However, I'm hopeful that the 2024 shows that any fraud can be countered. That might be optimistic as the republicans have a history of not using the power their populace has voted for.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9456 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 12:50 pm to
trump sez don't throw me in that briar patch.

Its a triple double reverse.

The list is global

Democrates are being tricked into forcing the disclosure, which will look very, very,very badly
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
12486 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 12:51 pm to
Muh Epstein…
Posted by MetalJacket1973
Member since Jul 2025
72 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 12:53 pm to
They've admitted they have a bunch of material and videos. How has NO ONE been caught / arrested / prosecuted besides Epstein and Maxwell?!

Unacceptable for this admin, unacceptable for the Biden admin.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
12418 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 1:20 pm to
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There's still another option: The files have been altered /destroyed and nothing is reliable anymore.


It’s surprising that so few understand this.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
39998 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 1:21 pm to
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Joo


There it is
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
39998 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 1:23 pm to
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It’s surprising that so few understand this.



Well if that happened and the response is to just ignore and pretend it never happened, then can I get a refund on whatever percentage of my federal taxes goes towards the DOJ?
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
27770 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 1:31 pm to
Well, Epstein didn't seem like an idiot. The idea that he kept a ledger in plain English never really made sense. Or even that any blackmail videos would ever be on a connected server to ever be exposed to the un-deletable internet. Physical hard drives with blackmail videos are the only realistic version of a "list" and that's been insinuated but never stated outright.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
12418 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 1:32 pm to
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Well if that happened and the response is to just ignore and pretend it never happened, then can I get a refund on whatever percentage of my federal taxes goes towards the DOJ?


Dude, your DOJ sealed a shite ton of stuff as part of the sham Maxwell prosecution. That can’t be released. Ask yourself: Why was that done?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
24853 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 1:34 pm to

They found out that Epstein's only real clients for his honey trap were intel agencies that they don't want to expose and drag down.

Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17390 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 1:35 pm to
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Trump would love to say this... He is not saying this. He is saying there is nothing there, get over it.


I think it's an absolute looney tunes position (and I wonder which podcaster came up with it since it seems to be sprouting up all of a sudden) but you do have to admit the mental image of Biden being up at 2 AM going over the papers with Wite-Out and replacing every "Bill Clinton" reference with "Donald Trump" is kind of funny.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463729 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 1:35 pm to
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DOJ sealed a shite ton of stuff as part of the sham Maxwell prosecution. That can’t be released.


Did they?

Or was this the unrelated civil suits from 10 years ago?
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
The Dark Side Of The Moon
Member since Dec 2010
6744 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 1:37 pm to
Politco is a See I A mouthpiece and there are way more scenarios than just those 3.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
24853 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 1:37 pm to
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It is very possible there is no "client list," but Epstein definitely blackmailed people.


They weren't clients, they were targets of his information, influence and blackmail operation.
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