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re: Political "Cooldown" in the coming years after Trump
Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:01 am to Tigers0918
Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:01 am to Tigers0918
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this is my fear even as someone who is currently a Democrat. It is so obvious so much of what Trump does is to get revenge on anyone who crosses him, and to piss off anyone who disagrees with him and his supporters eat it up.
Well, if you do that for 8 total years, the other side is waiting in the wings to have their own revenge and it will never end.
As a former Dem, my life was personally affected in the worst ways by.....
Democrat Presidents.
I put a long rant on here yesterday about the "fascist" bullshite I personally dealt with in 2021 from being censored, forced to get a shot, and not allowed to visit dying friends.
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:24 am to Tigers0918
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this is my fear even as someone who is currently a Democrat. It is so obvious so much of what Trump does is to get revenge on anyone who crosses him, and to piss off anyone who disagrees with him and his supporters eat it up. Well, if you do that for 8 total years, the other side is waiting in the wings to have their own revenge and it will never end.
Guess you haven’t been paying attention to the endless attacks on DJT himself.
It’s been relentless
Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:25 am to boosiebadazz
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Interestingly enough, there’s probably enough common ground for leftist ideologues and blue collar MAGA bros to agree on the issues around UBI, but the tech bros will throttle and stifle the online debate and information exchange because they will be the ones being taxed more heavily.
I don’t agree about the Tech Bros. Wealth industries have always given ground on social programs when their existence is threatened. If unemployment lurches toward 10%, with no end in sight, the Tech companies will make political deals to stave off revolution.
We are all just guessing what the effects of AI will be and what the government response will be, but I don’t see a suicidal stance against UBI by Tech companies as being a strong possibility. Off course there will be battles over how much to tax them and how rich the benefits will be.
I agree with you on this:
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Social media and information siloes have pushed regular people into tribal camps.
I think the bitterness remains, but the Trump factor is an accelerant.
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 8:31 am
Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:31 am to Tigers0918
Why are you people so violent?
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:03 am to TheGeauxt9
What you've seen over the last 20 years is a progressive deterioration of public tolerance and open minded communication, largely initiated and escalated by the political parties themselves.
It's only going to get worse until widespread violence takes place unfortunately. History shows that when you pit two half of a country against each other and both sides keep fanning the flames of division and hatred against the other it always ends in violence and blood shed.
The politicians are getting rich (in both money and power) off of this so there is not incentive for them to change. This country is on a highway to destruction and we passed the last offramp about 25 or 30 years ago.
When people finally realize that their votes don't matter anymore, Katie bar the door.
It's only going to get worse until widespread violence takes place unfortunately. History shows that when you pit two half of a country against each other and both sides keep fanning the flames of division and hatred against the other it always ends in violence and blood shed.
The politicians are getting rich (in both money and power) off of this so there is not incentive for them to change. This country is on a highway to destruction and we passed the last offramp about 25 or 30 years ago.
When people finally realize that their votes don't matter anymore, Katie bar the door.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:06 am to TheGeauxt9
Democrats have such poor ideas they have to paint the Republican nominee for president as a racist, sexist threat to American democracy.
That was the message about......Mitt Romney?
Obama said of him, “My Opponent Is a Dangerous Radical.”
Biden said he would put African Americans “back in chains."
Mitt Romney??? Really? Even the Washington Post conceded that Romney and the Republicans got treated horribly in 2012,
"Two Democratic officials attending the convention have described Republican falsehoods by quoting Nazis -- one Hitler, one Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels. South Carolina Democratic Party Chairman Dick Harpootlian then compared his state's governor, Nikki Haley, to Hitler girlfriend Eva Braun."
This didn't start with Trump, it won't end with him.
Mark this down, we are roughly 800 days away from the 2028 Republican convention and democrats saying the Republicans nominated someone who is "worse than Trump" and "literally just like Hitler"
That was the message about......Mitt Romney?
Obama said of him, “My Opponent Is a Dangerous Radical.”
Biden said he would put African Americans “back in chains."
Mitt Romney??? Really? Even the Washington Post conceded that Romney and the Republicans got treated horribly in 2012,
"Two Democratic officials attending the convention have described Republican falsehoods by quoting Nazis -- one Hitler, one Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels. South Carolina Democratic Party Chairman Dick Harpootlian then compared his state's governor, Nikki Haley, to Hitler girlfriend Eva Braun."
This didn't start with Trump, it won't end with him.
Mark this down, we are roughly 800 days away from the 2028 Republican convention and democrats saying the Republicans nominated someone who is "worse than Trump" and "literally just like Hitler"
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:16 am to TheGeauxt9
I think things may be slightly more civil
once Trump isn’t around to do or say things that seem calculated to provoke a response. Unfortunately, he’ll find it unacceptable to no longer be the center of attention, and he is likely to continue to comment daily. In the meantime the online fever swamp will still exist,, and the usual suspects will continue to stir shite with misinformation and seek to inflame hysteria…
ETA: with another election cycle or two I think we may see a return to normal political discourse…
once Trump isn’t around to do or say things that seem calculated to provoke a response. Unfortunately, he’ll find it unacceptable to no longer be the center of attention, and he is likely to continue to comment daily. In the meantime the online fever swamp will still exist,, and the usual suspects will continue to stir shite with misinformation and seek to inflame hysteria…
ETA: with another election cycle or two I think we may see a return to normal political discourse…
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 9:18 am
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:18 am to Tigers0918
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this is my fear even as someone who is currently a Democrat. It is so obvious so much of what Trump does is to get revenge on anyone who crosses him, and to piss off anyone who disagrees with him and his supporters eat it up.
Yeah, he did all of that totally unprovoked. It's not like the DOJ was weaponized against him or anything
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:46 am to TheGeauxt9
No.
BLM riots started while Obama was president.
So this everything was gravy pre trump is just a fricking lie.
BLM riots started while Obama was president.
So this everything was gravy pre trump is just a fricking lie.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:47 am to Tigers0918
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this is my fear even as someone who is currently a Democrat. It is so obvious so much of what Trump does is to get revenge on anyone who crosses him, and to piss off anyone who disagrees with him and his supporters eat it up.
Democrats started hunting trump supporters day 1. Attacking them at rallies.
You people are so dishonest.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:47 am to TheGeauxt9
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Do you think there will eventually be some sort of return to a generalized civil discourse of politics one day where that is more closer to the norm than the exception, or do you think it is only down hill from here?
Around 90% of everyone would have to get so tired of politics that no one gets keyed up about anything like this anymore.
I'm 99.99% certain this will not be happening.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:48 am to dgnx6
quote:Correct!
So this everything was gravy pre trump is just a fricking lie.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:53 am to VOR
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once Trump isn’t around to do or say things that seem calculated to provoke a response
so it's trump's fault that you people have tried to kill him 4 times!
that's good to know!
i love the UBI bullschit you people spew, i'll cut to the chase my UBI is going to need to be 30k a month and that doesn't include bonus or 85k in company stock annually which i will generously forgo so you slackers can play games on your phone and feed your addiction to interweb porn.
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:56 am to TheGeauxt9
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I just feel (and maybe recency bias speaking here) that everything since 2016 has become hyper-politicized in almost every fashion of life.
Because Trumpism has wrought a system that treats it like a sport that people can win or lose, which more often then not leads to all of us losing. Democrats have largely played along. I don’t see a way back.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:57 am to Champagne
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they work hard to make the USA and the Globe safe and welcoming for Trans Kids.
This would be a great thing.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:01 am to sorantable
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Because Trumpism has wrought a system that treats it like a sport that people can win or lose, which more often then not leads to all of us losing. Democrats have largely played along. I don’t see a way back.
so doubling down on it's trumps fault that you people have tried to kill him 4 times.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:45 am to TheGeauxt9
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"Do you think that once Donald Trump leaves office after this term, the political landscape will cooldown some time afterwards?".
Did it after George Bush left? Did it after Trump's first term? Was "unity" the prevailing message then?
Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:46 am to sorantable
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Because Trumpism has wrought a system that treats it like a sport that people can win or lose, which more often then not leads to all of us losing
Sooo what was "Obamaism" and "Bidenism"?
Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:51 am to TheGeauxt9
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"Do you think that once Donald Trump leaves office after this term, the political landscape will cooldown some time afterwards?".
I want to believe it will... but it won't. You can already see with the way Dems started crying about DeSantis in Florida in recent years, and then JD Vance, Elon Musk, RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard etc etc etc.
They'll just make out the next Republican to be just as "bad." Most on the left, including mainstream Democrats now, truly believe that all conservatives and Republicans are Nazis, and even murdering them is justified.
We can't fix this by voting.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:53 am to Tigerdew
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They’ve already shown how desperately they want the power back. That kind of evil doesn’t just fizzle out.
Whatever it takes. By any means necessary.
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