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re: Poland officially announces it just invoked NATO Article 4

Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:41 am to
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17662 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:41 am to
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Because it’s obvious bullshite to anyone with a three digit IQ.


But you only have a single digit IQ, with one branch in the tree.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17662 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:43 am to
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He literally once lied saying that Russia struck Poland when it was actually one of his own faulty missiles that accidentally hit Poland, and that lie could have started a nuclear apocalypse. He later admitted that he lied, but he wanted NATO to declare war on Russia over that lie. We should have cut that mother fricker off completely for that.


Yeah well this is Poland doing all the talking.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157757 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:43 am to
Well isn’t that just plain ole mean
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
6265 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:43 am to
The biggest problem with Ukraine, has been the disproportionate amount of aid we have sent compared to their neighbors, combined with little Z not being serious about resolving the conflict.

Ukraine is a European problem. We do not have any security ties or friendship with that country. Germans, French, UK can all open up their wallets to a much greater tune than they have. They also funded the Russian build up by buying their gas for decades. They laughed at Trump in his first term when he warned them that they were tying themselves to Russia.

The simple truth is Ukraine needs to cede land to Russia. The land Russia occupies, will never be Ukrainian again. Short of US intervention, it would be impossible for them to take it back with force. It makes no sense to fuel a forever war if that’s what Ukraine wants to do.

Poland is a redline. We should exit NATO, but Poland is a country the US should be tied to regardless. We share values. Christian, European, conservative.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115354 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:46 am to
quote:

Russian drones


I am dubious
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:48 am to
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The biggest problem with Ukraine, has been the disproportionate amount of aid



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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476599 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:48 am to
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Russia can't even get Ukraine under control. Poland would kick the shite out of them.


I agree, but it would still give us the opportunity to truly frick them up. We wouldn't decline that opportunity, NATO or no NATO.

I imagine it would be like Iraq 1 when we showed the world the tech we had been developing as a "don't frick around" message to rogue states like Russia.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15711 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:48 am to
NeoconSFP
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
6265 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:53 am to
Won’t pass unfortunately. Too many uniparty are happy to spend as many billions as it takes to kill more Russians
Posted by TheDeerHunter
Deer woods
Member since Jun 2025
278 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 8:55 am to
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This shite is getting fricking old. I'd be more for going to war for Poland than Ukraine but Putin needs to knock it the frick off.


Says someone who has never fired a shot in battle. Warpigs.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476599 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 9:17 am to
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NeoconSFP



I haven't discussed a personal policy preference.

Only said what the US would do, sans NATO.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37967 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 9:33 am to
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This shite is getting fricking old. I'd be more for going to war for Poland than Ukraine but Putin needs to knock it the frick off.

Tell me, why would Putin basically beg for NATO to jump into a war that his country is already winning?

And then tell me why this doesn't have EVERY telltale hallmark of a false flag.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476599 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 9:35 am to
Why would Poland, specifically, participate in a false flag?
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3401 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 9:46 am to
I am personally convinced that Putin wants war with NATO. Not sure why but maybe because he sees no course change for Russia in the world stage if the status quo remains. I believe he want war but wants to instigate others to escalate it.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76445 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:00 am to
Putin knows all about opening unnecessary fronts in war.
I'll wait for the evidence not the bombastic opening statement barrister lol
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23998 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:03 am to
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Why would Poland, specifically, participate in a false flag?


Why do you try to reason with the defense policy experts on this board?
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55263 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:10 am to
I am Retired US military and I am subject to Recall to Active Duty at any time that My Commander in Chief Donald Trump may order.

When POTUS signs my orders, I'll let you know. I am ready. I am Retired US military and a veteran of the United States Army Special Operations Command at Fort Bragg North Carolina.

What are YOUR credentials?

PS I am not advocating for a US military incursion inside Russia at the moment, but, I am advocating for a US military partial mobilization and deployment of additional US combat ground forces to Eastern Europe for the purpose of preparing for military operations further Eastward.
This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 10:13 am
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76445 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:15 am to
Why do you advocate for this?
Posted by TheDeerHunter
Deer woods
Member since Jun 2025
278 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:15 am to
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I am ready


You’re ready to go to war on false news to kill soldiers from a nation (Russia) which protects and embraces Orthodox Christianity on behalf of a nation (Ukraine) led by an atheist Jew who arrests/tortures and kills Orthodox bishops/priests?

Come on brother, that makes no sense. Christ over country.
This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 10:15 am
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46368 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:50 am to
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I’m sure the board will find an excuse for this and give Russia another pass.


Not from me. There is no contextual understanding for this provocation.
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