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re: Poland / Russia war is about to kick off
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:17 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:17 am to SlowFlowPro
Directly? No-one...but China and India would be waiting to assert their interest after the dust settles. I'd also not be surprised if China did not share intel and both may supply raw material such as gas or oil etc to Russia
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 7:43 am to SmogkDeizKnutz
Unless its the ukes
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:12 am to Jbird
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The mighty North Korean midget battalion.
I almost put them, but would China allow that to happen?
They're kind of vicariously responsible for the Norkos, so if they did something stupid, it could drag China in. THAT could lead to WW3.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:13 am to hansenthered1
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but China and India would be waiting to assert their interest after the dust settles.
Dividing up former Russia, sure.
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I'd also not be surprised if China did not share intel and both may supply raw material such as gas or oil etc to Russia
Dilly dallying economically with Russia during Ukraine is one thing, especially since China is bending them over in those deals. We can tolerate that.
Aiding Russia militarily when they start a war with NATO is a completely different ballgame. We would not tolerate that, and China knows it.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:19 am to hansenthered1
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Russia is doing its best to break NATO by pushing up to the red line and seeing if we'll jump on board.
Are you ready for WWIII...this is what would happen if the US and other NATO countries decided to fight Russia
Nonsense. Russia is desperate and is trying to cause fractures in the west. NATO simply needs to be patient and limit retaliation to proportionate strikes.That will contain Russia.
Russia is completely unable to open another significant front. They were so taxed by Ukraine that they were unable to support their puppet in Syria and that Russian ally fell. Finland also flouted Russian threats and joined NATO, confidant that Russia had its hands full with Ukraine and was powerless to stop them.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:24 am to TigerAxeOK
Someone hasnt been paying attention. A hybrid war had already started. Russia has been employing cyber attacks on European infrastructure for a while now along with paying people to commit arson on European manufacturers and railway relays.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:27 am to DatNolaClap
just a nato false flag. Russia didendunuffin
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:33 am to SmogkDeizKnutz
This could be a deep state play.
Poland is one of few not playing the eu's. Games, and forcing the destruction of their culture.
Great play to get them involved in a conflict with Russia.
Poland is one of few not playing the eu's. Games, and forcing the destruction of their culture.
Great play to get them involved in a conflict with Russia.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:33 am to TDTOM
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Russia cannot be that stupid.
Russia is bogged-down in Ukraine and has become dependent upon Iran, NK, and China to keep their war machine half-arse running. They want no part of Poland. Just Poland's air assets can shut down the Baltic for Russian shipping. Plus, an attack NATO would probably cause Turkey to close the Bospherus Strait. A majority of Russia's maritime trade would grind to a halt.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:53 am to SmogkDeizKnutz
Panicans need to relax. WW3 is not starting under POTUS' watch
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:15 am to SmogkDeizKnutz
Horse shite.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:19 am to SmogkDeizKnutz
It wouldn’t be Poland vs Russia.
It’d be NATO vs Russia.
It’d be NATO vs Russia.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:30 am to SmogkDeizKnutz
quote:Two Ukranians working for Russia try to sabatoge Polish RR
Two Ukrainian citizens who have long worked for Russian intelligence have been identified as the suspects behind two acts of sabotage on Poland's rail network, Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk has said.
One of the suspects had already been convicted in absentia of acts of sabotage in Ukraine, Tusk told Poland's parliament.
On Monday, he visited the scene of an explosion near Mika, south-east of Warsaw, which damaged the railway line leading to the Ukrainian border at the weekend, and called it "an unprecedented act of sabotage".
Another incident further down the line near Pulawy on Monday forced a packed train to stop suddenly and damage was found to overhead cables.
Polish authorities had initially said there was a very high chance that the two acts of sabotage on the Warsaw-Lublin railway line on had been ordered by a "foreign service".
Then a spokesman for Poland's special services minister said on Tuesday that "everything points to them being Russian special services".
Russia has not yet publicly commented on the allegations.
"The goal was to cause a rail catastrophe," Tusk told MPs.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:35 am to JinFL
Russia is on the verge of FO
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:14 pm to Penrod
I agree with your assessment. I think we are saying the same thing. I don't think Russia will cross that line but if they do, we'd be in a serious state of emergency if called for an article 5 mutual defense of any proven attack.
I've read a lot about how Russia is trying to break NATO by shaking the resolve of those who would be called to respond due to article 5. This would fracture NATO, long term goal. That being said, if we keep calm even if the Ukes don't win back their territory Russia has lost a lot and as you said, Finland has joined NATO as well as Sweden.
I've read a lot about how Russia is trying to break NATO by shaking the resolve of those who would be called to respond due to article 5. This would fracture NATO, long term goal. That being said, if we keep calm even if the Ukes don't win back their territory Russia has lost a lot and as you said, Finland has joined NATO as well as Sweden.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:16 pm to SmogkDeizKnutz
didn't you post the BREAKING NEWS thread that we sent missiles into Russia today.
frick of with this fake news.
frick of with this fake news.
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
So, while we fight Russia we'd do what? Embargo the two most populated states on Earth? Cut trade to key raw material while we are war?
I think there is a lot of folks who see China and especially India rise if the west gets into a war like one with Russia.
Especially if we are talking limited nuclear exchanges and the destruction of a large scale strategic attacks. It's a hyper-lethal world and whoever "wins" could well win a pyric victory setting up a scenario where two new powers become the key brokers of international policy.
I think there is a lot of folks who see China and especially India rise if the west gets into a war like one with Russia.
Especially if we are talking limited nuclear exchanges and the destruction of a large scale strategic attacks. It's a hyper-lethal world and whoever "wins" could well win a pyric victory setting up a scenario where two new powers become the key brokers of international policy.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:12 pm to SmogkDeizKnutz
Russia wouldn’t attack a NATO country. There are enough Russian speakers in the countries nearby to pretend to be part of the Russian military. The Ukrainian hate for Russia is newer and nothing in comparison to the Poles hatred of Russia.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 5:44 am to hansenthered1
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So, while we fight Russia we'd do what? Embargo the two most populated states on Earth?
Why on Earth would we do that?
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I think there is a lot of folks who see China and especially India rise if the west gets into a war like one with Russia.
Why? Maybe if China can gain control over Russia and its petro. That would give them a good bump.
If we beat Russia, it's much more likely we would control that, though, at least to an extent to prevent the above from happening.
But, again, in that future conflict scenario, China would want Russia to lose. Why would they help them? The plan is for Putin to be ousted so China can control Russia.
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Especially if we are talking limited nuclear exchanges and the destruction of a large scale strategic attacks. It's a hyper-lethal world and whoever "wins" could well win a pyric victory setting up a scenario where two new powers become the key brokers of international policy.
Why are you assuming that (1) it would be nuclear and (2) the US wouldn't emerge as the remaining world hegemon?
Posted on 11/19/25 at 5:56 am to SlowFlowPro
I'm assuming it would go nuclear because the Russians have always had the offensive use of tactical nuclear forces as part of their standing defense plan. If they were in a hot war with NATO and they a) know that they'll get their buts kicked conventionally, they will use nukes tactically to stop this. b) if they do this, then you can expect we'll do the the same in response as defense, which is something we claim as part of our defense planning.
The question is would it be a declared war? If they hit US forces inside the US, say Alaska or within our waters off Alaska, say Shemya or somewhere close by or used a tactical nuke near Poland/Germany I think we'd declare war on them, even if up to then it was just a military action with NATO. If it become a declared war, how long would it go until strategic arms are used? All speculation of course but my point is after such a war, China and India would probably be the great powers.
The question is would it be a declared war? If they hit US forces inside the US, say Alaska or within our waters off Alaska, say Shemya or somewhere close by or used a tactical nuke near Poland/Germany I think we'd declare war on them, even if up to then it was just a military action with NATO. If it become a declared war, how long would it go until strategic arms are used? All speculation of course but my point is after such a war, China and India would probably be the great powers.
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 6:00 am
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