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re: Pharmacist refuses to fill prescription

Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19432 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:28 pm to
Pharmacists are calling doctors, and if it's for COVID, they're not filling the prescriptions.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10448 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:34 pm to
Dude that has never been even a thing with the abortion crowd suggesting that so I believe you need to try harder
Posted by Nuts
Michigan
Member since Oct 2011
1024 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:36 pm to
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What religion barrs Ivermectin?


Scientism.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56744 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:36 pm to
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Many in the pro-life crowd want pharmacists to have "conscience exemptions" from dispensing abortion pills or even the morning after pill.

If that can and should be allowed, then it has to be allowed for the other side too.



Do you consider an individual pharmacist choosing not to fill a prescription due to his/her conscience to be similar to multiple pharmacies deciding (presumably for medical reasons) which medicines can be prescribed in opposition of a medical doctor?

That's dumb.

A pharmacist deciding not to fill a prescription that may interact poorly with another medicine makes a ton of sense. That's an expertise that a pharmacist has above a doctor.

A pharmacist deciding not to fill a prescription because the CDC doesn't approve of it is out of line. Frankly, I think it is illegal because it has given a power to the federal government that the federal government does not have. It's unconstitutional and the pharmacists are complicit given that they are admittedly working on behalf of the CDC.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9281 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:37 pm to
Wonder why they haven’t they done this with the opioid epidemic?
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22906 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:39 pm to
This whole idea is dumb as hell by pharmacies. Everyday myself and every other health care provider around the world writes off label scripts for non FDA approved reasons. Never have I seen this challenged before until Covid. It’s ridiculous and shifts powers to activist pharmacist they should not have and don’t have a clue about.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 3:43 pm
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
2446 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:39 pm to
Apples to oranges you stupid frick
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56744 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:42 pm to
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shifts powers to activist pharmacist they should not have and don’t have a clue about


If they are deferring to the federal government (FDA / CDC) they are giving power to that governmental agency. The Federal government does not have that power.
Posted by Misnomer
Member since Apr 2020
3451 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:42 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 3:45 pm
Posted by Misnomer
Member since Apr 2020
3451 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:42 pm to
Just a little FYI before y’all get outraged...I’m a pharmacist and don’t have a professional objection to filling ivermectin for COVID...but the a-hole who made this video is an ignorant douche bag.

Ivermectin is in short supply and on allocation. Pharmacies often do not get what they attempt to order. The cost to provide it has also exceeded outdated insurance reimbursement and the published discount prices. Insurances will not cover it without a diagnosis code of a parasitic infection, and pharmacies are not going to accept your stupid GoodRX coupon because our acquisition cost exceeds it.

The dude filming the busy pharmacist and demanding him answer to this very complicated issue and posting it online can eat a bag of dicks. There is no context to the prescription either, and we have seen some severely retarded prescriptions for ivermectin. I have had people approach me with prescriptions for their whole family for a year’s worth of “prophylactic” doses of ivermectin and expecting us to order and fill these orders for hundreds of dollars less than what it costs us to currently order it.

Just saying.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261782 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:45 pm to
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If that can and should be allowed, then it has to be allowed for the other side too.


Is it allowed? If not, you just wasted a bunch of typing.
Posted by NOLAGurl
Member since Aug 2021
354 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:54 pm to
It shouldn't be allowed for anyone. They all just need to do their job.
I don't understand what the point of pharmacists even is. Why doesn't the doctor just give you the medicine, anyway? The pharmacy is like this extra, annoying step.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10465 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:01 pm to
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"conscience exemptions"


You suggesting that some have a conscience issue with Ivermectin?

What could that be? I am interested to hear this one.

Why would they even know, much less care why my Dr prescribed a drug to me?
Posted by Misnomer
Member since Apr 2020
3451 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:05 pm to
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It shouldn't be allowed for anyone. They all just need to do their job. I don't understand what the point of pharmacists even is. Why doesn't the doctor just give you the medicine, anyway? The pharmacy is like this extra, annoying step.




Cute.

Prescribers disagree with you. They absolutely prefer pharmacists manage, screen, and dispense the meds.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111631 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:06 pm to
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The dude filming the busy pharmacist and demanding him answer to this very complicated issue and posting it online can eat a bag of dicks. There is no context to the prescription either, and we have seen some severely retarded prescriptions for ivermectin. I have had people approach me with prescriptions for their whole family for a year’s worth of “prophylactic” doses of ivermectin and expecting us to order and fill these orders for hundreds of dollars less than what it costs us to currently order it.


So you’re saying that you’ve priced ivermectin below your acquisitions costs. I’m intrigued. Tell me more.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12033 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:09 pm to
Nothing new, it's happening all over the country.

Everyone's an activist these days, except if they're conservative. Conservatives are not permitted to be activists, we're racist, sexist and anti-vaxxers or something.
Posted by Misnomer
Member since Apr 2020
3451 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:24 pm to
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So you’re saying that you’ve priced ivermectin below your acquisitions costs. I’m intrigued. Tell me more.


No, that is not what I’m saying, you malinformed twat. Pharmacists don’t have control over drug prices, but we do have an understanding of pricing and supply, and I’m trying to share that information here.
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
6001 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:30 pm to
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So you’re saying that you’ve priced ivermectin below your acquisitions costs. I’m intrigued. Tell me more.


yeah. I addmitedly don't know anything about the industry but I know that different pharmacies have different prices for the same exact medicine like in every other retail setting. and if that's the case why werent there options presented. like you'll have to pay out of pocket.. whatever. being busy doesn't preclude you from doing your job anywhere else..... we've all stood in line that is 15 deep at a convenience store while the cashier touches every box of cigarettes while the oblivious customer says "no the ones in the red box."

anyhow this is pissing me off a bit more than usual at the moment. my MIL had a teledoc appointment with our PCP that they have been seeing for decades (me more recently). they refused to send a script in for what is clearly a sinus infection because she's unvaccinated and refused to get a COVID test.
Posted by Misnomer
Member since Apr 2020
3451 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:40 pm to
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different pharmacies have different prices for the same exact medicine like in every other retail setting. and if that's the case why werent there options presented. like you'll have to pay out of pocket.. whatever. being busy doesn't preclude you from doing your job anywhere else


This is different. I’m trying to tell y’all that the prices for ivermectin published on the discount goodrx type online pharmacy pricebot sites are not going to be accepted at any pharmacies because of negative profit, and even if it were profitable - the quantities requested on these prescriptions often exceed what our wholesaler allocation allows.

And, if it was actually super-duper effective, that would make it even more difficult to supply!
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 4:59 pm
Posted by crimsonuatide
Member since Jul 2017
1670 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:29 pm to
Do you know how I know you are an idiot? Well damn, I just asked a stupid question.
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