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People who want socialism

Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:07 pm
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9313 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:07 pm
Everyone wants "what is best for themselves". People who want socialism obviously believe that the basic bare minimum standard of living that could be provided by the government for them - would be BETTER than the standard of living they could provide themselves.

For the socialism advocates... why do you think you couldn't provide a better quality of life for yourself than government welfare could?
This post was edited on 9/27/20 at 10:08 pm
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

People who want socialism



= Lowlife filth
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
24292 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:10 pm to
“I don’t want to have to try. I just want to, ya know, get stuff that’s owed to me. I deserve it for existing.”

If this isn’t the most unamerican mindset I don’t know what is.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
14017 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:10 pm to
The flaw in your logic is that the useful idiots who want socialism have no idea how the real world works. They have had iPads and silver spoons their entire life. They have no concept of what the alternative is.
Posted by Drury01
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
596 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:11 pm to
They don't want to get the education or other skills to combine with a good work ethic to earn a decent way to live. They would rather sit on their arse and collect hand outside from the government which is funded by hard working tax payers.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9313 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:13 pm to
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The flaw in your logic is that the useful idiots who want socialism have no idea how the real world works. They have had iPads and silver spoons their entire life. They have no concept of what the alternative is.

These people can't be THAT DUMB (can they?)

Socialist advocates... do you think the government is going to provide every single citizen a new iphone/ipad? Is that what you really think?
Posted by BigB123
Texas
Member since Dec 2018
985 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:14 pm to
We already have socialism. What do you think wellfare, Medicare, and social security are?

The real question is how far down the socialism rabbit hole you can go before damaging the functioning of markets. Sadly even the 3 I mentioned above don’t function particularly well even though they should be relatively non-complex given their relatively precise target goals. Unfortunately even simple things can be effed up by government bureaucrats.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57257 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:16 pm to
The two things that jump out for me...

1/ they think the most valuable and precious something is... the less they should cost. Valuable healthcare... should be free. Valuable education... should be free. Exact opposite.

2/ they think hating the rich = helping the poor. In reality... hating the rich is way easier than actually opening up their own pockets to help the poor. And politicians leverage that hate to gain power. They are stooges.
This post was edited on 9/27/20 at 10:18 pm
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24822 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:21 pm to
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People who want socialism
...are free to renounce their citizenship and leave for the socialist country of their own choosing.

I will pay their way, one way ticket.

TigerAxeOK@gmail.com
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
36761 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:24 pm to
Please define socialism for the sake of this discussion. What particular flavor are you referring to?

Posted by CXSteve
Member since Oct 2012
855 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:26 pm to
Sweden/Denmark wont take my Trump country loving self.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9313 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:31 pm to
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What particular flavor are you referring to?

Whatever flavor you believe in.
Please tell the crowd why the government could provide 'X' for you, better than you could provide it for yourself.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87439 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:32 pm to
Some want to compete
Some do not
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57257 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:34 pm to
quote:

Please define socialism for the sake of this discussion. What particular flavor are you referring to?
The inevitable "let's argue over the definition of socialism instead" obfuscation post.
This post was edited on 9/27/20 at 10:35 pm
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
6009 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:38 pm to
Working shitty jobs and having a hard life is hard. All they had to do was "Try" in gubment school, or maybe "not get pregnant," or "not do drugs," or "not break a law and go to jail,"... but those things are hard.

They want all the perks of having a great job without having to do all the hard stuff.

What they don't realize is, when everyone's life sucks, so will theirs. Unfortunately, they are all morons, and don't think about consequences or what happens "tomorrrow." It's all about today, baby.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4043 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:39 pm to
No, the flaw in the logic is not understanding that socialism is already here, and has been for decades. And that the two parties only argue about the amount they want at any given moment.
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:39 pm to
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People who want socialism


Would be the first purged under the system they so desperately want.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21775 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:41 pm to
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We already have socialism. What do you think wellfare, Medicare, and social security are?

The real question is how far down the socialism rabbit hole you can go before damaging the functioning of markets.


Those three already have, so clearly you can’t go very far.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38283 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:45 pm to
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We already have socialism. What do you think wellfare, Medicare, and social security are?


Muh FIRE TRUCKS!
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57257 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:48 pm to
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What they don't realize is, when everyone's life sucks, so will theirs.
THey are sold on the idea that "the poor" will become closer to Jeff Bezos. In reality, the oppposite occurs. Jeff Bezos becomes poor, and "the poor" stay poor.

There are no more rich people (outside of government, of course!) in Venezuela. Socialism has been a rousing success!! "Income inequalty" is all but eliminated. Everyone is poor.
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