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re: People should wear masks for the economy.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:11 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:11 am to SlowFlowPro
What kind of mask are you using?
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Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:12 am to BarberitosDawg
I work in what used to be called a white-collar job.
There are pictures from the 1960s at my workplace of the men who used to do what I do now. They are all wearing buttondown shirts and neckties. They wore them every day.
Neckties serve no useful purpose. They are constrictive and annoying. They are especially uncomfortable in warmer months. However, they were considered mandatory for a person in my profession in those days. But somewhere along the way, attitudes towards their necessity changed.
Masks are the new neckties. I know they serve no useful purpose, but if wearing one in the building where I do my job is required I’ll do so. Fortunately, unlike neckties in the days of old, I can take mine off in the privacy of my office, once I close my door.
I find I’m much more productive with my door closed. So that’s a plus.
There are pictures from the 1960s at my workplace of the men who used to do what I do now. They are all wearing buttondown shirts and neckties. They wore them every day.
Neckties serve no useful purpose. They are constrictive and annoying. They are especially uncomfortable in warmer months. However, they were considered mandatory for a person in my profession in those days. But somewhere along the way, attitudes towards their necessity changed.
Masks are the new neckties. I know they serve no useful purpose, but if wearing one in the building where I do my job is required I’ll do so. Fortunately, unlike neckties in the days of old, I can take mine off in the privacy of my office, once I close my door.
I find I’m much more productive with my door closed. So that’s a plus.
This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 9:13 am
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:12 am to NIH
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The people I know from my hometown who are non-stop anti mask definitely fit the retard mold
i have a couple of people who are educated/smart who are doing the whole "anti mask" thing but it's usually people i'd never listen to for socio-political analysis
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:12 am to BarberitosDawg
I bidet the frick out of my butthole every morning with my Japanese Toto washlet
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:12 am to Sasquatch Smash
The same people who think mask work and force others to wear one, will be the ones that will tell us to turn off our AC to stop the spread. Then they will be the one to tell us to stop using coins and cash. Next, they will be the ones that tell you we can not vote and have to to do mail in voting. Lastly they will be the ones doing the job of politicians. Which is, divide and conqueur.
Government rather have citizens that blindly do anything instead of those who question everything due to our common sense
Government rather have citizens that blindly do anything instead of those who question everything due to our common sense
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:12 am to TaderSalad
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You know that there have been numerous scientific studies that show that masks do not serve a purpose when dealing with viruses AND can actually make it worse when wearing something like a cloth mask?
what study? the one making that argument earlier (posted in another thread) has literally 0 to do with this discussion
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:13 am to the808bass
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That’s the joke. He’s in on it.
Haha...right?
I thought the joke was obvious since I pointed out that masks are masters of time travel.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:13 am to NIH
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If we don’t vote for Trump, Biden will spend $5 trillion, let Democrats hold cities hostage, and sit by while cities burn!
after the utter failure Trump has been since February, I just don't get the cult-like support today
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:15 am to FearlessFreep
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Masks are the new neckties. I know they serve no useful purpose, but if wearing one in the building where I do my job is required I’ll do so.
I agree with this. There’s a degree of politeness that can be exhibited in wearing masks. I picked up a bunch of gaiters I can pull up over my face when I go into a store that requires a mask. It’s not my job to educate the public on the lack of efficacy of it all.
I do have to understand other people’s delusions in order to participate in society. I do not have to participate in their delusions.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:16 am to themunch
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What kind of mask are you using?
usually surgical for the time being (i bought some during the initial panic anticipating the mask mandates) but i'll probably invest in something more comfortable
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:16 am to Bunk Moreland
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And it takes away from the argument that if we all did wear one, we wouldn't have spikes.
The optics will merely shift. Wearing a mask isn’t a solution in and of itself.
Hell, two months ago New Yorkers were mad people in the South were driving to the grocery story.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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after the utter failure Trump has been since February, I just don't get the cult-like support today
Please tell me what he did that failed you and what would Joe do?
Also tell me what any liberal politician did that actually brought positive change and not more division since February
I will wait as you respond with "Trump is bad"
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:17 am to the808bass
Also, to my friend who was talking about California's mask mandate before deciding to wear the mask, remember, the mask mandate happens to coincide with the weather warming. Which is responsible if the cases decline? I am not saying I know it is the weather or the mask, but one won't be able to draw a scientific conclusion from that data without much more.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:17 am to Smedium27
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Please tell me what he did that failed you and what would Joe do?
did i bring up Joe Biden?
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Also tell me what any liberal politician did that actually brought positive change and not more division since February
well Trump did try some reconciliation speeches
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:18 am to SlowFlowPro
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after the utter failure Trump has been since February, I just don't get the cult-like support today
The so-called libertarian is upset that the central planner hasn't stopped a virus. What world are we in right now?
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:18 am to SlowFlowPro
Or maybe we just know we aren't sick and contagious and if we are we stay home. Pretty simple science.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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what study?
Here's one published in the CDC's own journal back in May. Metanalysis looking at 14 controlled studies.
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Here, we review the evidence base on the effectiveness of nonpharmaceutical personal protective measures and environmental hygiene measures in nonhealthcare settings and discuss their potential inclusion in pandemic plans. Although mechanistic studies support the potential effect of hand hygiene or face masks, evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.
There's more than one study out there. Not a whole lot in support that masks actually prevent infection. Even the WHO admits to such in their 2019 Flu pandemic document.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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usually surgical for the time being (i bought some during the initial panic anticipating the mask mandates) but i'll probably invest in something more comfortable
If you cared about yourself, others, and the economy at large, you would invest in the PPE that virologists wear. The fact that you value comfort in this fight shows your lack of commitment.
I'm sure the bandana does the job just as effectively. Those idiots are wasting the money of their grants and facilities.
This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 9:23 am
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:20 am to SlowFlowPro
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did i bring up Joe Biden?
We are sadly in a 2 party system , so when you attack one president you have to ask yourself what will the next person do?
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well Trump did try some reconciliation speeches
That was not the question. If Trump did so bad in your opinion and the medias opinion, tell me who made the right decision since February. Also why do you think your opinion of Trump is universal?
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Will be interesting to evaluate these pro-mask takes about 5 years from now when we look back at the clown world that 2020 was.
One thing I can't get past: Dr. Anthony Fauci, with 52 years of experience in infectious disease, a guy who graduated first in his class with a Doctor of Medicine at Cornell, a guy who won the following awards..
Maxwell Finland Award (1989)
Ernst Jung Prize (1995)
Lasker Award (2007)
Medal of Freedom (2008)
Robert Koch Prize (Gold, 2013)
.. a guy who has been Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases for the past 46 years..
All of that expertise led him to the following conclusion in March 2020:
He cited 2 reasons why: 1) it doesn't give people the kind of protection they think it does (causing them to be careless in other areas of hygiene), and 2) it causes people to touch their face much more often.
I believe Dr. Fauci was speaking actual science in that March interview. What's happened since then is all politics.
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