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re: People saying things like "America lost last night" or "We deserve better"
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:16 am to Godfather1
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:16 am to Godfather1
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Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:16 am to RICHIE APRILE
It genuinely was a shitshow.
But American doesn't deserve better. This is precisely what we deserve.
But American doesn't deserve better. This is precisely what we deserve.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:16 am to loogaroo
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Had Trump been an ounce less aggressive everyone would say he was weak. You cannot give the other side an inch with the game they are currently playing.
Nobody is saying be less aggressive, we are saying hammer the points and differences when you do.
When he went after hunter....that was a win. Go after the issues and put Joe on the defensive and get the knockout.
Look Trump won....but it was a fricking shite show of two old fricks screaming at each other.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:17 am to RICHIE APRILE
Americans have become far too comfortable with the status quo. How else do you justify preferring a political veneer over actual results? Democrats will shoot you in the back and steal your wallet to get what they want. They lie and cheat and spy. They are ruthless (literally).
Why cant we have a fighter who is willing to call them out for what they are? Why is that a bad thing?
Why cant we have a fighter who is willing to call them out for what they are? Why is that a bad thing?
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:17 am to Pettifogger
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It genuinely was a shitshow.
But American doesn't deserve better. This is precisely what we deserve.
Maybe this is what wrestling the nation out of a "shitshow" looks like.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:18 am to RICHIE APRILE
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They are mad Trump didn't just sit back, shut up, and get Mitt Romney'ed.
Yep ,a lot of Republican men are starting to act like women (feewings) just like Democrat men do.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:20 am to Vacherie Saint
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Why cant we have a fighter who is willing to call them out for what they are? Why is that a bad thing?
Because it isn't fair the OMB is so bad and a meanie and making 6th graders cry and stuff...
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:20 am to lsu777
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Nobody is saying be less aggressive, we are saying hammer the points and differences when you do
Trump left a ton on the table last night. Not sure if hes pacing, but there were instances where he could have body bagged Biden with results and he didnt. The issue of black voter engagement for example. Trump has a badass record here and he really didnt get into the details.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:21 am to Vacherie Saint
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Why cant we have a fighter who is willing to call them out for what they are? Why is that a bad thing?
Because people don't want to be embarrassed for supporting someone.
They want to support Trump but are too worried about what their friends and neighbors will think of that.
They would rather have a president they aren't ashamed of and sucks at actually governing, then a president who gets shite done but doesn't play by the "civility" rules
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:21 am to RICHIE APRILE
When I say it was a mess, that has nothing to do with who won or who was better, simply on the quality of the debate. It was a bad debate and bad tv.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:22 am to gthog61
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just another "I am above the fray" virtue signal
Exactly. If you (generic) don't realize we are at war then you aren't contributing to the fight for the soul of this nation. The media, deep state (we all know now actually does exist), swamp rats, and their foreign allies will stop at nothing and will recruit any useful idiots (BLM, Antifa, Karens, etc) to fight in their own militia.
My only complaint about Trump last night is that he wasn't more precise with his attacks. I'm also fine with carpet bombing though. Ultimately any tack he takes will be derided by the MSM and social media morons so burn it down I say.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:23 am to RICHIE APRILE
Just because they may do those other things doesn’t mean they weren’t correct about last night. It was objectively a shitshow.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:23 am to RICHIE APRILE
I haven’t said or believed any of those things and I still think last night was a train wreck.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:24 am to Chef Curry
it was by traditional measures, but I hate to break this to you... this is how its going to be from now on. This is how it is in many other countries already.
Politics in america is bloodsport.
Politics in america is bloodsport.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:29 am to RICHIE APRILE
Last night was a shitshow mainly because of Wallace. He was the single most terrible moderator since Candy Crowley. He had no control, was very unprofessional, and downright bad. Trump was being double teamed so I kind of understand why he was aggressive. Some people are just happy Biden didn't die.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:31 am to Vacherie Saint
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Trump left a ton on the table last night. Not sure if hes pacing, but there were instances where he could have body bagged Biden with results and he didnt. The issue of black voter engagement for example. Trump has a badass record here and he really didnt get into the details.
Everyone thinks I am melting this morning, I'm not. I am simply saying g exactly what you said.
Trump missed opportunity after opportunity to nail Biden and flip the script and put him on the defensive.
Every single question was pretty much a chance. He need to fire Rudy as his prep coach.
He only did it a couple times and he had a chance atleast 5 to 6 other times to hammer it even more.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:34 am to lsu777
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we are saying hammer the points and differences when you do.
They just lie about everything. The points don't matter. He couldn't have handled covid any better than he did and they turned that against him. He had the best economy the world has ever seen and they turned that against him.
He did exactly what needed to do to keep Biden on his heels and...possibly...not hear the answers in his ear piece.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:06 am to loogaroo
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They just lie about everything. The points don't matter. He couldn't have handled covid any better than he did and they turned that against him. He had the best economy the world has ever seen and they turned that against him.
He did exactly what needed to do to keep Biden on his heels and...possibly...not hear the answers in his ear piece
If he wanted to frick with the wire all he had to do was bring a scrambler.
And it doesn't matter what they lie about when you have the audience on live TV. Hammer the fricking points.
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