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re: Paul Ingrassia: The formula is simple...if you stand by Trump, you win

Posted on 4/5/23 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 2:37 pm to
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The formula is simple: if you stand by Trump, his agenda, and most importantly, the American people, you win.

If you reject MAGA, you lose.

How people still haven’t figured this out nearly a decade after Trump descended the escalator boggles the mind.


I guess he just blacked out during the most recent midterm elections?
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 2:39 pm to
Look at it this way. IF democrats believed that biden won fair and square, they would be welcoming the opportunity to crush him again in 2024. Yet, they are going bat excrement crazy trying to find a way to prevent him from being on the ballot in 2024. Trump scares the bejesus out of them.

IF you really believed what you posted about polling and such, you'd be sitting back enjoying a beer and waiting for Desantis to be the nominee. Yet here you are arguing. Trump scares the bejesus out of you as well. Probably because deep down, you are really a democrat.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116379 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 2:40 pm to
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, they would be welcoming the opportunity to crush him again in 2024.


they are, you are falling for all of this hook line and sinker.

They do not believe they will win any of these cases. They did not believe that he would be Convicted in the Impeachments.

You don't get it.
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5211 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 2:40 pm to
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Sounds to me like the media (which runs the polls) want go against Desantis and not Trump.


It's the other way around. They're begging to go against Trump. Rick Wilson of the Lincoln Project even admitted that he wants Trump to win the primary because it would be easy for the country to say "no" to him.

Biden's advisors are giddy at the possibility of going up against Trump.



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Democrats and the media act like Trump scares the bejesus out of them.


Why would they truly be scared of a guy who got his arse kicked by Biden?

It's reverse-psychology. Dems are very good at that and are trying to engineer our primary. They did a great job of this in 2022. They pretended to be scared of Kari Lake, Don Bolduc, Blake Masters, Doug Mastriano, Dr. Oz, John Gibbs, and a host of others leading up to the primaries. Meanwhile, Dems were funneling them money and propping them up behind the scenes because they were weak General Election candidates.

Claire McCaskill even wrote a book about how she did this to survive in 2012. She was toast against any Republican not-named Todd Akin, but she used reverse-psychology to engineer the GOP primary so he won.

quote:

I had just made the biggest gamble of my political career—a $1.7 million gamble—and it had paid off. Running for reelection to the U.S. Senate as a Democrat from Missouri, I had successfully manipulated the Republican primary so that in the general election I would face the candidate I was most likely to beat.

So how could we maneuver Akin into the GOP driver’s seat?

Using the guidance of my campaign staff and consultants, we came up with the idea for a “dog whistle” ad, a message that was pitched in such a way that it would be heard only by a certain group of people. I told my team we needed to put Akin’s uber-conservative bona fides in an ad—and then, using reverse psychology, tell voters not to vote for him. And we needed to run the hell out of that ad.

Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 2:41 pm to
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it won't always "work out".

Yet you presented them as though they are a given....
We'd all be better off if each of us would try to turn 1 or 2 brainwashed libs before the election. If 20 or 30 million could be turned, the demos would have a much harder time cheating.
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 2:42 pm to
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they are, you are falling for all of this hook line and sinker.

Absolutely NOT.

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You don't get it.

You might want to take a nice long look in the mirror.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116379 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 2:47 pm to
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Yet you presented them as though they are a given....


How?
Posted by TomShelby
Member since Mar 2023
789 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 2:47 pm to
But the Displaceddumbass from Ohio who voted for Kaisch has TDS so that means no one will vote for him
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116379 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 2:48 pm to
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Absolutely NOT.


You are.

They want Trump to be the nominee. DESPERATELY.
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 2:51 pm to
The democrat controlled media is reporting that "Biden's advisors are giddy at the possibility of going up against Trump." which is telling the enemy what the democrats are actually doing and what the democrats actually want. Defies logic, military logic anyway. Seems more likely that they are feeding false intel to their enemy in an effort to get their enemy to make a mistake and put up the guy the democrats really want to run against......
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 2:53 pm to
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They want Trump to be the nominee. DESPERATELY.

Guess time will tell, now won't it. I've already converted 2 libs at work. They BOTH hated Trump before the election. Now they see that their hatred blinded them to how good they had it. They will both be voting Republican this time. This is where the focus needs to be.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50115 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 2:56 pm to
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Remind me again how Trump's endorsements did in swing elections?


Vast majority have been epic fails.

Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18147 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 2:56 pm to
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I’m pretty confident Maricopa was going Groomer come hell or high water

Belief based on what exactly?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50115 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 3:12 pm to
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The two leading candidates in March of 2015 were....


Scott Walker and Jeb Bush. Trump wasn't even in the the poll.


In July 2015 Trump was at a whopping 12%. This was after he declared.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50115 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 3:16 pm to
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Yet, they are going bat excrement crazy trying to find a way to prevent him from being on the ballot in 2024.


Nothing they are doing will keep him off the ballot.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38250 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 3:20 pm to


If it would’ve won him the election then why didn’t Trump endorse?
Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
5817 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 3:25 pm to
OP doesn’t figure in the corruption of politicians

They mostly are worthless vermin wanting nothing except to make all they can while in office, not just win and draw the lowly pay the office
lawfully allows

They want big money that the corrupt get. Once they win and get “the talk/option” they cave and become part of the corrupt

Sorta like those on this site that speak for them, useless idiots
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5211 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:05 pm to
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Maricopa


Kimberly Yee, arguably the only state-wide candidate that didn't have the Trump stench, won Maricopa county by 162K votes.

If we want to win the Arizona Senate seat in 2024, she's by far the best bet to do so. But I fully expect AZ Primary voters to give the nomination to Kari Lake and Kelli Ward.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22298 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:23 pm to
Good stuff.

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The only way DeSantis loses is if Trump voters, particularly in the rural counties, stay home. He can still win without some of them because he'll bring back a good portion of those 5.5 million voters, but if a good number of Trump supporters stay home then things get dicey.


Is there any reason to believe that Trump supports will NOT stay home? I just don't see how this is an avoidable problem for Desantis in 2024. There is no doubt in my opinion that Trump supporters will refuse to vote if Desantis plays spoiler in the GOP primary.

Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27893 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:30 pm to
Senator Mehmet Oz

Senator Hershel Walker

Oh yeah and the Republican governor of PA

All brought to you by Donald Trump in Nov. 2022
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