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Party Switch
Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:12 am
Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:12 am
I have someone arguing with me that the parties switched particularly in reference to economic reasons. Some argue that Lincoln was more like a Democrat with big government is that true?
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Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:15 am to Tigahhs97
The economic issues in the 1800s are not comparable to now
The parties weren’t split as much on ideological grounds but rather region and ethnicity
Conservative v liberal didn’t really split the parties
The parties weren’t split as much on ideological grounds but rather region and ethnicity
Conservative v liberal didn’t really split the parties
Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:15 am to Tigahhs97
quote:Almost certainly an alter.
Tigahhs97
quote:The party switch dogma is lefty revisionism, nothing more.
I have someone arguing with me that the parties switched particularly in reference to economic reasons. Some argue that Lincoln was more like a Democrat with big government is that true?
Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:16 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
Conservative v liberal didn’t really split the parties
Correct; absolute power did
Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:18 am to Tigahhs97
Lincoln absolutely was, but this is all relative. Lincoln was all about silencing dissent, keeping the war machine churning, and wiping out forced labor that didn’t support his war efforts. It’s hard to judge his economic policy because it was entirely focused on waging war.
Despite Lincoln’s use of federal power against states to enforce federal law at the point of a gun, the nation was pretty damn libertarian. You didn’t need a license to do, well, anything. There were no “employment” laws that had to be followed, no environmental impact studies, no affirmative action quotas, building permits, zoning laws, entitlement programs, insurance, etc. at the federal level, education, food safety, medicine, and to a large extent even manufacturing and agricultural were completely unregulated, and the federal government was only minimally involved in building infrastructure.
Despite Lincoln’s use of federal power against states to enforce federal law at the point of a gun, the nation was pretty damn libertarian. You didn’t need a license to do, well, anything. There were no “employment” laws that had to be followed, no environmental impact studies, no affirmative action quotas, building permits, zoning laws, entitlement programs, insurance, etc. at the federal level, education, food safety, medicine, and to a large extent even manufacturing and agricultural were completely unregulated, and the federal government was only minimally involved in building infrastructure.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:18 am to ShortyRob
I don’t know what an Alter means but if your trying to say I’m a liberal in disguise or something you are an idiot.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:19 am to Tigahhs97
Strom Thurmond and Robert Byrd forgot to switch their affiliations then.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:28 am to Tigahhs97
Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:29 am to Tigahhs97
tell the voice inside your head to stop arguing.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:31 am to AnonymousTiger
Lol. Racist Southern conservative white guys used to be Democrats and now they're conservative. Whether or not it's the same person that's switching oh, it's the same families. To try to deny that is laughable
Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:31 am to Tigahhs97
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I don’t know what an Alter means
An Alter is where we make blood sacrifices to the Goat God every month.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:34 am to Ebbandflow
Go spray period blood somewhere else
Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:35 am to Tigahhs97
Party switch is a liberal myth. White people in the South were voting democrat up until the 1990s.
Fact is, white southerners left the democrat party because it moved too far left.
Fact is, white southerners left the democrat party because it moved too far left.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:35 am to 225bred
quote:
Go spray period blood somewhere else
Look I get it. You're tired of me ruining all of your good talking points
Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:40 am to Ebbandflow
whatever you say hoss
Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:48 am to Ebbandflow
You should watch the video Anonymous Tiger posted. You might learn something.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:59 am to Ebbandflow
quote:
Lol. Racist Southern conservative white guys used to be Democrats and now they're conservative. Whether or not it's the same person that's switching oh, it's the same families. To try to deny that is laughable
You could have just said, "I'm a dumbass." Same thing.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:01 pm to Ebbandflow
quote:It is notable that as this supposed switch from democrat to republican happened, the South grew considerably less racist and opportunities for minorities exploded.
Lol. Racist Southern conservative white guys used to be Democrats and now they're conservative. Whether or not it's the same person that's switching oh, it's the same families. To try to deny that is laughable
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:01 pm to Tigahhs97
Lincoln= Republican/ allied with the Abolitionists
Don't forget, we Southerners fired the first shot. I think Lincoln wanted to end slavery by other means. His hand was forced. He was for small government.
Dems on the other hand have always been corruption, racism, and large government.
Don't forget, we Southerners fired the first shot. I think Lincoln wanted to end slavery by other means. His hand was forced. He was for small government.
Dems on the other hand have always been corruption, racism, and large government.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:05 pm to Tigahhs97
Dems have always been the party of racism, slavery, and the KKK.
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Democrats 1869
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