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re: Parents of school shooters being arrested
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:10 pm to sleepytime
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:10 pm to sleepytime
The kid had made threats and authorities interviewed him lat year.
What sort of dad in his right mind buys that kid an AR for Christmas? It's like he wanted him to do it.
What sort of dad in his right mind buys that kid an AR for Christmas? It's like he wanted him to do it.
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:10 pm to faraway
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if the FBI knew he was making threats, why didn't they prevent the shooting?
They should have charged him.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:12 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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I think ol' Dad is culpable in these murders.
Ol Dad is a little TOO ate up with guns...he even named his kid Colt.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:28 pm to sleepytime
If a kid was investigated a year ago for plotting a school shooting but not charged due to whatever and then acquired weapons to follow through with such crimes where the weapon was provided by the parent. Yes, they deserve to be charged. I’d argue for more than just manslaughter.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:32 pm to ChampKind
If the threat was credible then why did the fbi do nothing?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:40 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
Yesterday I’d said I didn’t think it was right to arrest parents for something their kids did barring parent part being at fault. He seems to deserve this arrest after providing his son a firearm when they knew he had issues. I think I read others knew also, so they too should be arrested. Utter failure by parent and system.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:47 pm to sleepytime
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I just read the father of the school shooter in GA was arrested for involuntary manslaughter. The parents of the Michigan school shooter were both sentenced to 10-15 years in prison( LINK). It seems like this could be a slippery slope and selectively being used. You certainly don't see the parents of other kids that commit crimes with guns being charged and where do you draw the line? What's the PB's take on this?
I think if these people werent human garbage who raised a POS, more people would have gone home to their families the other day.
Yes, if these people kept guns and ammo in easy reach of their kid who was threatening to kill people, they should get involuntary manslaughter and years in prison
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:49 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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This might have something to do with it: quote:Colt Gray was given the gun he used to shoot dead four people at his Georgia high school as a Christmas present from his father months after they were questioned by the FBI over alleged threats. I think ol' Dad is culpable in these murders.
If that is true dad should get the rope. What a low life POS
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:53 pm to sleepytime
If the allegations being floated in the news turn out factually accurate, it’s not a great leap to charge the shooters dad.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 11:28 pm to Chad504boy
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If the threat was credible then why did the fbi do nothing?
If they couldn't prove the kid made the threats and he wasn't confessing, what else could they do?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 11:52 pm to sleepytime
I am going to quote part of the article.
Link to the article below.
LINK
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Colin Gray said he visited his son’s school often because the teenager was being picked on.
“I don’t want him to fight anybody but they just keep like pinching him and touching him and like words are one thing,” the dad said, according to a transcript of the interview, “but you start touching him and that’s a whole different deal.”
The father told an investigator Colt Gray didn’t have unfettered access to firearms in the house but was allowed to use them when supervised.
Colin Gray said his son shot his first deer that year, and that he had a photo on his phone of the teenager with the deer’s blood on his cheeks.
During the Grays’s 2022 eviction, six firearms were found in the home, including a black “AR-15….with scope,” according to documents released by the sheriff’s office. The weapons were released to the owner, the documents said.
Earlier this year, a Michigan judge sentenced the parents of a teenager who killed four classmates at his high school to 10 to 15 years in prison each, the first parents of a school shooter to be held directly responsible for their child’s attack.
Link to the article below.
LINK
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:14 am to sleepytime
It's a slippery slope that will inevitably be used disproportionately. How do you prove a parent knew what was in their kids mind? Who decides when it's warranted and how do they come to that decision in one case but not another? This particular one, with the past history, seems a little more cut and dry. I'm can't say I'm 100% on board because of the precedent it sets, yet doesn't really set, but in this particular instance I can't really form a good argument against charging the dad. It's not illogical or a big stretch.
If she wasn't killed, should the Sandy Hook mom have been charged? I say yes. Yet we see her as an innocent victim. Not true at all. Not based on this precedent. Slippery slope indeed.
If she wasn't killed, should the Sandy Hook mom have been charged? I say yes. Yet we see her as an innocent victim. Not true at all. Not based on this precedent. Slippery slope indeed.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:16 am to the808bass
You just enjoy seeing anyone arrested.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:19 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
The pro police state type "conservatives" around here would say yes.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:20 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
I don't believe a damn thing the FBI says.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:22 am to Big EZ Tiger
Yeah a day in court with your girl Fani Willis.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 1:08 am to sleepytime
No issue with it at all.
He shouldn't have had the access to the weapons, that's being a responsible gun owner and parent.
If you compound that basic principle with the fact that the kid was clearly troubled based on some of the accounts coming out it's magnified. There is clear negligence here on the parents' part.
He shouldn't have had the access to the weapons, that's being a responsible gun owner and parent.
If you compound that basic principle with the fact that the kid was clearly troubled based on some of the accounts coming out it's magnified. There is clear negligence here on the parents' part.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 1:13 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
A basic rule of parenting should be that you don’t give weapons to a mentally ill (e.g., trans) child.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 4:39 am to TrueLefty
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During the Grays’s 2022 eviction
Couldn't afford the rent in 2022...buying my 14 year old an AR15 in 2023.
This is not sounding like a stable home life...not an excuse.
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six firearms were found in the home, including a black “AR-15
To keep a roof over my kids head I would sell my firearms but times would have to be real tough for that.
I'm seriously doubting the parenting skills of his folks.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 6:15 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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If a kids kills someone driving a car recklessly
If the kid has a history of street racing, DWI, and has a suspended license-yes!
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