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Our relationship with Ukraine is screwed after all this

Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:41 am
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24848 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:41 am
They are pretty much showing how normal sausage is made and humiliating Pres Z and the Ukraine as a whole. To air out all of this will be more damaging to our relationship than the 55 days of assistance holding.

Dem's don't care.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:42 am to
Yup. They straight up called Zelensky a liar.

They may still work in good faith with Trump, but he'll never work with the Democrats after this shite show.

This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 9:43 am
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:43 am to
quote:

Dem's don't care.


They do everything with a purpose. They're either being paid to do this or hoping it starts a war.

They'll reveal their intentions eventually.

They may just be trying to discredit all of the Ukraine to cover their own corrupt tracks.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35952 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:43 am to
I think our relationship with Ukraine was screwed when the CIA was training sniper teams as far back as 2011 and the Obama Administration aided their coup in 2014 which triggered a civil war.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
34937 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:44 am to
I just think it’s funny that a president that is supposedly a Russian asset is allegedly trying to bribe the Ukraine, who is actively at war with his supposed “puppet master”, for assistance against his political opponent.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 9:45 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:44 am to
I don't think so....pretty sure he's been thru bigger shite fights than this.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42517 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:45 am to
quote:

Our relationship with Ukraine is screwed after all this
They are pretty much showing how normal sausage is made and humiliating Pres Z and the Ukraine as a whole. To air out all of this will be more damaging to our relationship than the 55 days of assistance holding.


Been worried about this from the git-go.

quote:

Dem's don't care.


universal fact
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:45 am to
The relationship we had with Ukraine prior to the Zelensky election was corrupt as hell.

Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24848 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:49 am to
quote:

The relationship we had with Ukraine prior to the Zelensky election was corrupt as hell.



I am worried about the relationship from when Pres Z took over.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4485 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:50 am to
It doesn't help, but I think the Ukraine president has to see what's going on, and will still work with POTUS.

Everyone involved in trying to remove him from office doesn't care though, as long as they don't all "hang from nooses" as HRC's election-day email stated.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15396 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:51 am to
Which is exactly what Morrison and Volker we’re worried about Vindman and his BFF “Charley” doing.

Democrats, per usual, are doing exactly what they accuse other people of doing.

Trump wasn’t humiliating Ukraine. They are. They are calling their president a liar and a pussy who got bullied. Particularly the second is the last thing some alpha Eastern European Dude wants to be.

Thanks Democrats for helping the Ukrainians fight the Russians.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 10:04 am to
quote:

Our relationship with Ukraine is screwed after all this


Or Trump and Zelensky become good buds just to spite the Dems.
Posted by LetsgoGamecocks
Member since Sep 2014
2916 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 10:08 am to
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Yup. They straight up called Zelensky a liar.


Dems have been calling Putin a liar and blaming him for all sorts of things. Pretty stupid move to fack with someone with so many nuclear weapons.
Posted by duckdude
Member since Apr 2016
392 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 10:10 am to
I wouldn't say this is only causing trust issues for the Ukraine.

You don't think the rest of world is watching this crap show? Even little rocket man see's the country split and it has to affect trust issues.

Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17722 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 10:12 am to
As long as Javelin missiles are effective against tanks our relationship with them will be the same
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11142 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 10:12 am to
They still want our money and support against Russia.

We are the only thing preventing Putin from rolling into Kiev outright.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27356 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 10:14 am to
Ohhhhhh Dems care. They care very deeply about themselves and the money that has been skimmed off aid in the Ukraine and returns to the US by way of their children and sweet money gigs.

None asks in open session why so many people were so keenly interested in the natural gas industry in a kleptocracy in Eastern Europe.
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
9493 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 10:16 am to
As long as it benefits the Democrats THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS.

Signed
Nancy Pelosi
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8518 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 10:18 am to
I know, some shite ain’t it. They just through shite out left and right to feed their zombie minions to march them over a cliff.
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