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re: Our Country Fights Wars With Too Many Constaints

Posted on 8/10/26 at 5:39 pm to
Posted by Ferdinand
Member since Aug 2026
132 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 5:39 pm to
Why would we “have to deal with” the humanitarian situation were it to arise.

Don’t talk tough and then submit to taking care of people who hate you and your family?
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
2551 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 5:49 pm to
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We overthrew their democratic government in 1953 and installed a brutal dictator so that their oil could be taken by western forces. In 1979 they had a rebellion and they attacked the embassy of the country that installed that dictator.

They did not come to American and attack us or anything else. I don't want to see Americans held hostage and such, but I completely understand why they did it and don't find it to be irrational. I think we'd all react the same way.



This is a difficult, complex, and nuanced take that quite frankly, not a lot of people (esp on the right apparently) have the wherewithal to comprehend.

They start history at a convenient timeline that totally ignores the USA's frickery in meddling with other countries and the audacity of those people over there to be mad about it. But let Russia pass one submarine between the US and Cuba and they get mad af.

What they don't realize is all the time and energy that has gone into the ME in the last 25 years is a waste of time. They want to fight Iran over there, while Muslims are taking over back over here.

This post was edited on 8/10/26 at 5:50 pm
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
1679 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 6:19 pm to
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They attacked us first 47 years ago and have been ever since.

Were you alive 47 years ago boom. Because if you weren't you have no idea.


I was alive and as I already pointed out, we overthrew their democratic government in 1953 and installed a brutal dictator. 1979 was a rebellion against that government and the US embassy was attacked in that because the guy was our puppet.

Save me your dogma based on emotion and an extremely one sided view of things as if the attack was out of the blue when it wasn't.

You think fake news is a recent thing?

Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
18130 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 6:42 pm to
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For those who read the Bible, you know how the Creator instructed Israel to go to war.....utter and complete destruction of the enemy, lest the wicked come back to seek their revenge.


You talking about in the Jewish part of the Bible?
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
26370 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 6:57 pm to
I have no problem with TRUMP not allowing IRAN to have a NUKE, period!

IRAN + NUKE = DISASTER
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s hollow dome
Member since Feb 2009
160439 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 8:07 pm to
No. Why? Those people are awful.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
6186 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 9:42 pm to
Agreed.

If we had only killed a few more Vietnamese or dropped a few more bombs in Cambodia we would have won the war instead of slinking back home in defeat. It was our restraint that lost that war.
Posted by leeman101
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2020
2792 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 10:18 pm to
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That happened after wwII , All wars are that way.


I'm sure Patton would agree especially when he had to wait outside of Berlin for the Russians to get there.

As for as Iran. It will be hard to break their will cause fighting is in their blood and plus they are promised 42 virgins.

Posted by Tall Tiger
Dr. Mercer's house
Member since Sep 2007
4378 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 1:36 am to
If you bomb Iran's civil infrastructure back to the middle ages, the population will start leaving and you'll have another refugee crisis where Soros and the NGOs will send Iranians to Western Europe and the US by the millions. No thanks.

We're better off just seizing Kharg Island and be done with this conflict.
Posted by TigerTiger12914
TEXAS
Member since Apr 2026
301 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 2:06 am to
Yes we with our CIA intervened because the same radical ideas were taking over Iran after WWII. Russia and China were there during the war and their oil was being controlled by Britain

The radical was living in yeah you guessed it France. Go figure Yes the USA had to step in and has been having too for a long time.

But Carter gave up when his rescue didn't work and they have been radicalized ever since.

So i guess we should just accept the fact that Obama and Biden gave them to tools to destroy us with their Nuclear play toys.

We may have not been perfect but we tried to bring them into the civilized world.

So your policy aligns with Obama and Biden. Give them Nuclear materials to build weapons so they can attack us. You condemn the us for trying to do what should have been done a long time ago correctly.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
176065 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 2:26 am to
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I agree.

War right or don’t war at all. Pussyfooting makes losers of us all.

We're all grateful that you don't have power. You're a sick person.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
15366 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 3:25 am to
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None of our wars are necessary


What could be more necessary than enriching the MIC?
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
3976 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 5:41 am to
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Our Country Fights Wars With Too Many Constaints


Why is it so hard for people to proof-read their thread titles?
Posted by Judnnc
Member since Jun 2025
996 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:50 am to
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I’d be all for ending the current civilization. We need a hard reset.


The snackbars and pinkos are working on that for you.
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
5273 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 7:58 am to
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There is if you are a country that was the driving force behind the laws that says there are war criminals


The so called "rules of war" only exist at the pleasure of the strongest country.

There is merit to both arguments here. It's logical to believe we should live up to our own rules. There's also logic in saying that if your own rules are hampering you due to the opponent not playing by them, then maybe you should change your rules.
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
5273 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:11 am to
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we overthrew their democratic government in 1953 and installed a brutal dictator. 1979 was a rebellion against that government and the US embassy was attacked in that because the guy was our puppet.


I agree with most of how you're laying this out.

I'm curious if you have similar views on Russia attacking Ukraine. Do you believe that was our fault too? Or, stated differently, do you believe Russia acted rationally? For the record, I do believe Russia acted rationally.
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