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Our cities are becoming places for the childless elite

Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:28 am
Posted by anc
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:28 am


The Atlantic Article

Last year, for the first time in four decades, something strange happened in New York City. In a non-recession year, it shrank.

Since 2011, the number of babies born in New York has declined 9 percent in the five boroughs and 15 percent in Manhattan. (At this rate, Manhattan’s infant population will halve in 30 years.) In that same period, the net number of New York residents leaving the city has more than doubled. There are many reasons New York might be shrinking, but most of them come down to the same unavoidable fact: Raising a family in the city is just too hard. And the same could be said of pretty much every other dense and expensive urban area in the country.

In high-density cities like San Francisco, Seattle, and Washington, D.C., no group is growing faster than rich college-educated whites without children, according to Census analysis by the economist Jed Kolko. By contrast, families with children older than 6 are in outright decline in these places. In the biggest picture, it turns out that America’s urban rebirth is missing a key element: births.

The modern American city is not a microcosm of life but a microslice of it. It’s becoming an Epcot theme park for childless affluence, where the rich can act like kids without having to actually see any.
This post was edited on 7/18/19 at 11:29 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:30 am to
i've been saying it for years, and people are finally agreeing, that the biggest difference in this country is the urban-rural divide

suburbia and medium-sized cities are the interesting areas, b/c the other 2 options are set and moving further apart every day
Posted by StripedSaint
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:30 am to
Posted by Bourre
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:31 am to
Less liberals getting pregnant is a good thing. It reduces systemic stupidity and potentially the baby murder rate
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:35 am to
It is part of the End Phase progression of US history in which the Ruling Elite reside within the gated and guarded enclaves of the Great Cites far from the consequences of their Globalist Leftist policies.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:36 am to
Too bad the lack of liberal births is offset by the giant voting block of free loaders
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:38 am to
Tucker Carlson had a great segment re the divide the other day

His point was the Republican establishment has more in common with the demographics in the cities and hates that their party has moved almost exclusively to suburban and rural white voters. It’s why you see tone deaf people like Kasich and Mark Sanford entertaining running against Trump. They have absolutely no pulse on their party.
Posted by uway
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:39 am to
It’s all gays.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:40 am to
White college graduates with no kids are increasingly becoming the biggest threat to western civilization with their rampant complacency.

Just look at western europe where their leaders are childless.

British May = Childless

France Macron = Childless

German Merkel= Childless

EU Jean Claude van Juncker = childless

Scottish Nicola Sturgeon = Childless

Dutch Mark Rutte =Childless

Leaders with families and kids of their own are more in tune with the dangers their countries are staring at in the future.

If you're a politician in your forties at the earliest with no kids and/or unmarried, I'm less inclined to vote for you.
This post was edited on 7/18/19 at 11:42 am
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:49 am to
I’m not sure it’s a static population. In other words, when/if people have kids, they move out of the city.

In part because of expense. But also in part because of education options in the city.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:49 am to
quote:

His point was the Republican establishment has more in common with the demographics in the cities and hates that their party has moved almost exclusively to suburban and rural white voters. It’s why you see tone deaf people like Kasich and Mark Sanford entertaining running against Trump. They have absolutely no pulse on their party.



Right.

Correct.

The GOPe folks couldn't give even less of a shite about the health of the American nuclear family and the alarming trend of filthy degeneracy in American pop culture if they tried.

American prosperity to them is all about a booming stock market, how big their portfolios are and how much money they can save from tax cuts and getting rid of costly American employees for cheaper foreign labor.
This post was edited on 7/18/19 at 11:51 am
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:51 am to
Having a bunch of kids is an old school mentality. People live longer and are able to wait later to have kids.

A lot of areas of urban growth and due to affluent people moving into run down areas and buying property that has dramatically decreased in value.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:51 am to
Not a single link
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:52 am to
quote:

American prosperity to them is all about a booming stock market, how big their portfolios are and how much money they can save from tax cuts and getting rid of costly American employees for cheaper foreign labor.


:applause:
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:54 am to
That’s why they hate Trump

He doesn’t jerk off the masses about capital gains or invading the Middle East
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:57 am to
another point I think is valid re the divide

The longer healthcare is a disaster the more even sensible conservative, middle class folk will clamor for Medicare for all. Not getting anything done on healthcare could be a ticking nuke for the GOP.

frick McCain
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:58 am to
The people with kids just live in the burbs and exurbs surrounding the cities and just commute in and out for work...basically everyone still lives within these massive metro-areas, but the cost of living in the city proper is too high for a family with kids.
This post was edited on 7/18/19 at 12:02 pm
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

suburbia and medium-sized cities are the interesting areas, b/c the other 2 options are set and moving further apart every day


Houston isn't one of these high-density cities but you still have massive suburbs due to inner-loop costs...when I venture out to the suburbs I don't see anything remotely interesting...it's a cultural void of chain restaurants, strip centers and fat people.

I'll take your point on medium sized cities...some of them.
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

His point was the Republican establishment has more in common with the demographics in the cities and hates that their party has moved almost exclusively to suburban and rural white voters. It’s why you see tone deaf people like Kasich and Mark Sanford entertaining running against Trump.


Sanford is from South Carolina and has 4 kids!

He may be out of step but it's probably for other reasons.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 12:06 pm to
I make a decent to better than decent living, and I have no idea how people afford kids in cities I want to live in without both parents working.
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