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re: Op Ed - Fiscally conservative Republicans told Trump to go pound sand
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
Are you still pretending to be a conservative who lives off govy stimy?
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:48 am to NC_Tigah
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When you add it to vastly increased spending, its Progressive. MMT is a real thing.
NO!
Youre simply anti academia then.
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Modern monetary theory (MMT) is a heterodox macroeconomic supposition that asserts that monetarily sovereign countries—such as the U.S., U.K., Japan, and Canada, which spend, tax, and borrow in a fiat currency that they fully control—are not operationally constrained by revenues when it comes to federal government spending.
Classic economics is conservative, Keynesian is liberal, MMT is Progressive.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:51 am to the808bass
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So you think Chip Roy is only now advocating for reduced government spending.
And just like that you, like Roger, avoid the context too. Let's try that again:
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(B) The Debt Limit has never once, EVER, in the history of the US, limited debt. Not once! So your assertion that Trump "doesn't want to be limited on debt," is so TDS-riddled that it rivals Whoopi Goldberg level logic.
(C) The only thing the Debt Limit is good for is empowering the minority negotiating stakeholder vis-a-vis threatened government shutdown in negotiations.
(D) In March, guess who the minority stakeholders are.
(E) Schumer's stooge, Chip Roy, gave Dems not only that lever, but also a bite at new budget negotiations along with it.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:52 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:This. But instead of regarding Trump objectively they are too emotionally invested in him as a reflection of themselves. Any perceived obstacle to his whims is to be lambasted regardless of how much sense it makes.
Trump is a HUGE spender. He absolutely needs hawks on his arse to keep him in line
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:53 am to Jake88
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This. But instead of regarding Trump objectively they are too emotionally invested in him as a reflection of themselves. Any perceived obstacle to his whims is to be lambasted regardless of how much sense it makes.
Classic cult of personality. They accept everything as gospel and good for society solely because Trump said so.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:54 am to Eurocat
Ok you changed my mind I should have voted for kamala
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:56 am to BCreed1
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And just like that you, like Roger, avoid the context too.
You said Chip Roy was Schumer’s stooge. The only way that’s true is that Roy doesn’t typically advocate for reduced government spending. Pull your head out of your arse.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
From 1941 to 1943 Friedman worked on wartime tax policy for the federal government, as an advisor to senior officials of the United States Department of the Treasury. As a Treasury spokesman during 1942, he advocated a Keynesian policy of taxation.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:01 am to BCreed1
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he advocated a Keynesian policy of taxation.
I would be fine with Keynesian policies, but we surpassed that and went to Progressive policy.
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Keynesian economics believe that government borrowing and higher government spending can stimulate the economy during a recession
Borrowing at low unemployment isnt Keynesian, its far left MMT.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:03 am to BCreed1
Keep reading.
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During the 1960s, he became the main advocate opposing Keynesian government policies
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:04 am to the808bass
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You said Chip Roy was Schumer’s stooge
I did not. I gave you a quote from another poster with an opportunity for you to chime in on the content.
You did not and still have not.
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The only way that’s true is that Roy doesn’t typically advocate for reduced government spending.
Either this is true or it is not:
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The Debt Limit never has reduced debt.
The Debt Limit never will reduce debt.
Those things will be done via the budget, if they are done at all.
Is that true or false?
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:07 am to BCreed1
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Schumer's stooge, Chip Roy,
Get an adult to read this to you so you will realize how utterly dumb you really are.
LINK
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Roy and a sizable amount of conservatives have repeatedly asserted that McCarthy should not accept anything that does not include cuts and reforms similar to what was included in the House-passed bill.
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And progressives have also stated they won't back a bill with any cuts, creating an additional hurdle for leadership on both sides of the aisle.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:07 am to BCreed1
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I gave you a quote from another poster with an opportunity for you to chime in on the content.
Oh. So you were posting things you didn’t agree with. You should make that more clear.
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The Debt Limit never has reduced debt. The Debt Limit never will reduce debt. Those things will be done via the budget, if they are done at all.
The Debt Limit provides an inflection point for the discussion around borrowing and spending to happen. By itself, it will never decrease the debt.
When you have lame bitches like yourself pretending that it’s in our best interests to remove the inflection point so that Trump doesn’t have negative press, that will also not reduce spending.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:07 am to Eurocat
Every person that voted for Trump will blame (and punish) congress for standing in the way. And rightfully so.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:08 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I would be fine with Keynesian policies,
Not what you have asserted. Ever.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:08 am to Giantkiller
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Every person that voted for Trump will blame (and punish) congress for standing in the way.
I voted for Trump. I hope my congressperson is more conservative on spending than Trump is.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:09 am to Eurocat
quote:Completely agree.
We are beyond stupid to accept this as normal.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:10 am to the808bass
quote:No.
Do you think tax cuts with increased spending is conservative? Because it isn’t.
A literal Saint of a teenager hops in a car with three friends. The car is new. His friends are acting strange. Police lights in the rear mirror lead to a chase because the three buddies stole the car. The driver hits and kills a pedestrian. Does that make the Saint a murderer? No. Now he may be charged, but he's no more a car thief/murderer than he was before hopping in the car. He's the same kid he was despite the association.
Tax cuts are not progressive, regardless of association.
This post was edited on 12/22/24 at 11:11 am
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:13 am to NC_Tigah
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Do you think tax cuts with increased spending is conservative? Because it isn’t.
No.
Its the literal characteristic of MMT.
This post was edited on 12/22/24 at 11:14 am
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:18 am to the808bass
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When you have lame bitches like yourself pretending that it’s in our best interests to remove the inflection point so that Trump doesn’t have negative press
Okay. Let's play a game. Let's suppose that Dems wanted the Debt Limit to hit in March. I know it's just wild speculation, but let's make that supposition. Why would Dems want that March "inflection point" to remain in place? Do you think they want budget cuts? Perhaps you believe they'd like to propose more tax cuts, as that is apparently novel paradoxical progressive policy?
Why might Dems want that March Debt Limit?
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