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On Monday, J6 committee to vote on criminal charges for Trump: One charge is insurrection

Posted on 12/17/22 at 7:21 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146966 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 7:21 am
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Politico.com

The Jan. 6 select committee is preparing to vote on urging the Justice Department to pursue at least three criminal charges against former President Donald Trump, including insurrection.

The report that the select panel is expected to consider on Monday afternoon, described to POLITICO by two people familiar with its contents, reflects some recommendations from a subcommittee that evaluated potential criminal referrals.

Among the charges that subcommittee proposes for Trump:

18 U.S.C. 2383 insurrection
18 U.S.C. 1512(c) obstruction of an official proceeding
18 U.S.C. 371 conspiracy to defraud the United States government.
Not long ago they said they were referring Trump J6 charges to the DOJ. (As if the J6 committee has not been working with the DOJ the entire time)

Now they are doing this when Liz Cheney, & Adam Kinzinger (two J6 committee members) are lameducks. And the only remaining votes on J6 committee are full blown dem hacks.

So will Adam Schiff and Bennie Thompson sentence Trump on Monday?
This post was edited on 12/17/22 at 8:09 am
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6851 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 7:29 am to
They really are scared of him and do no want him in their clubhouse.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
8810 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 7:34 am to
The illegal committee can do whatever it wants only to find out it has no and never had teeth whatsoever.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
5005 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 7:41 am to
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They really are scared of him and do no want him in their clubhouse.



More importantly, their masters want him out. The same masters that control the bulk of the republican party as well.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123951 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 7:45 am to
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One charge is insurrection
Right ... Because how many charges of "insurrection" have been brought in court by the Socialist Mafia DOJ Prosecution?
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68319 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 7:53 am to
Since when does congress vote to press charges on anything?

Good grief this is such a farce
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
12027 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:00 am to
I dare them and dare. the DOJ to arrest him.

Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34959 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:06 am to
Trump should do a major press interview like when he would take on the MSM Press Corps every day when on the way to the helicopter and point out that he indeed DID CHALLENGE the electoral corruption and legitimacy of said election. And still does. He should point out that he Dems simply employ the descriptor "overthrow" as a means to criminalize his legitimate protest and demand for redress, and further cover for their part in electoral and Jan. 6 corruption.

Trump would have been an irresponsible POTUS not to challenge that electoral corruption. It remains to this day, and that is why the corrupt Dems and their DOJ and Institutional Deep State Ops continue their assault on Trump and those who demand a FULL airing of the facts.

Dems cannot stand the Light of Truth. Take the fight to em. Trump can do this better than anybody. And if the Republicans continue to cower under their desk, then they should be forced to own it. DeSantis at the fore. If they can't stand the heat they ought not ask to do the cooking.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146966 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:08 am to
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30766 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:11 am to
Doesn’t matter. He can still run for president.

This will only strengthen his base.

They still don’t get it.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146966 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:12 am to
And anyone wonders why the FBI banned Trump's twitter account?

Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53459 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:13 am to
This is a pretty good piece about how messed up the Committee is. The timing game that Lynch played with this guy Budowich is ridiculous.
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In its ongoing attempt to investigate and gather information about private U.S. citizens, the Congressional 1/6 Committee is claiming virtually absolute powers that not even the FBI or other law enforcement agencies enjoy. Indeed, lawyers for the committee have been explicitly arguing that nothing proscribes or limits their authority to obtain data regarding whichever citizens they target and, even more radically, that the checks imposed on the FBI (such as the requirement to obtain judicial authorization for secret subpoenas) do not apply to the committee.

As we have previously reported and as civil liberties groups have warned, there are serious constitutional doubts about the existence of the committee itself. Under the Constitution and McCarthy-era Supreme Court cases interpreting it, the power to investigate crimes lies with the executive branch, supervised by the judiciary, and not with Congress. Congress does have the power to conduct investigations, but that power is limited to two narrow categories: 1) when doing so is designed to assist in its law-making duties (e.g., directing executives of oil companies to testify when considering new environmental laws) and 2) in order to exert oversight over the executive branch.

What Congress is barred from doing, as two McCarthy-era Supreme Court cases ruled, is exactly what the 1/6 committee is now doing: conducting a separate, parallel criminal investigation in order to uncover political crimes committed by private citizens. Such powers are dangerous precisely because Congress’s investigative powers are not subject to the same safeguards as the FBI and other law enforcement agencies. And just as was true of the 1950s House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) that prompted those Supreme Court rulings, the 1/6 committee is not confining its invasive investigative activities to executive branch officials or even citizens who engaged in violence or other illegality on January 6, but instead is investigating anyone and everyone who exercised their Constitutional rights to express views about and organize protests over their belief that the 2020 presidential election contained fraud. Indeed, the committee’s initial targets appear to be taken from the list of those who applied for protest permits in Washington: a perfectly legal, indeed constitutionally protected, act.

This abuse of power is not merely abstract. The Congressional 1/6 Committee has been secretly obtaining private information about American citizens en masse: telephone records, email logs, internet and browsing history, and banking transactions. And it has done so without any limitations or safeguards: no judicial oversight, no need for warrants, no legal limitations of any kind.

Indeed, the committee has been purposely attempting to prevent citizens who are the targets of their investigative orders to have any opportunity to contest the legality of this behavior in court. As we reported in October, the committee sent dozens if not hundreds of subpoenas to telecom companies demanding a wide range of email and other internet records, and — without any legal basis — requested that those companies not only turn over those documents but refrain from notifying their own customers of the request. If the companies were unwilling to comply with this “request,” then the committee requested that they either contact the committee directly or just disregard the request — in other words, the last thing they wanted was to enable one of their targets to learn that they were being investigated because that would enable them to seek a judicial ruling about the legality of the committee’s actions.

Congress' 1/6 Committee Claims Absolute Power.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8869 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:25 am to
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They really are scared of him and do no want him in their clubhouse.


I'm trying to game theory out what their motives are?

The only reason I am still a little bullish on Trump, is because of the way they have gone after him and continue to go after him. And they being the people I despise the most in Washington and the media. It intrigues me how much they hate him, and makes me feel compelled to support his campaign for this reason alone.

If they wanted him to go away. I think their best strategy would be to just ignore him. So I am not sure what they are trying to accomplish with the continued with hunts.
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:26 am to
Essentially all Trump did was pull the curtain back on the Swamp. Just imagine if anyone actually threatened their way of existence. Biden’s F15s vs. American citizens comment was not hyperbole.
Posted by Athis
Member since Aug 2016
11638 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:27 am to
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Since when does congress vote to press charges on anything?


correct.. they can't.. they can only suggest.. But you know the low brows of the law are going to be running around saying Trump was charged..
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11247 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:31 am to
Committee is unconstitutional and it's been an embarrassment since it was announced. It's just a parade of clowns and losers.
Lead actor, Adam Kinzinger
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34959 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:35 am to
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Biden’s F15s vs. American citizens comment was not hyperbole.



Pure Biden arrogance and insanity. This has been his character for 40 years, while on the grift.

The Military Chain of Command would go south in 3 days if our Military were ever to engage patriotic citizens who opposed an Authoritarian Government which seized power via corrupt means. The Deep State MUST can Trump, because he is de facto flag bearer for their corrupt seizure of power, and all that flows from that. Open Border at the fore.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30766 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:37 am to
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Committee is unconstitutional and it's been an embarrassment since it was announced.


Nancy broke the rules.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11247 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:42 am to
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I'm trying to game theory out what their motives are?


Game theory requires an underlying logic and logic does not exist with these people. All they have is ideology (a floating ideology) and emotion. Compare these people to how they behaved at the close of the Obama administration. The only constant in their lives has been hatred of Trump.

They are closer to small children than to adults; to tyrants than to leaders. When you combine such low intellectual ability with high emotion and malice, you have a real danger to the nation.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67992 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:51 am to
It's Kabuki theater, and has been for a long time.


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