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re: On 60 Minutes: FBI Dir Chris Wray calls J6th a terrorist attack

Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:59 pm to
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17817 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:59 pm to
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I can see why ppl think FBi/ or some agency was the instigator

You can’t just skip over that fact. That’s a massive detail that shreds any idea that it was some terrorist attack. For it to even be compared to the atrocities committed by blm and antifa is simply laughable.

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Those ppl weren’t the alphabet agencies …what was their intentions ? I mean? Terrorism is a pretty close description

You know that?
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hundreds of ppl carrying/plastic restraints/bear spray ??

So they were going to overthrow the United States government with plastic restraints and bear spray?

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As to the racial unrest - why isn’t that the work of the alphabet agency? I mean…tossing a few bricks into a few windows can transform an already heated crowd? Right?


Sure it’s possible, but it inherently part of the culture and fabric of the blm/antifa members to be violent. The only provocation they need is for someone to walk down the street wearing a nice watch and boom, they’ll kill that person just for the watch.

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But honestly- i can see how the residents of Minneapolis lost their minds but not all the big cities get that pass

George Floyd was/is a pos. He held a gun to a pregnant woman’s belly while he and his buddies robbed her home. He had a lethal amount of drugs in his system. But yes, let’s look at the cop on his neck and now we’re supposed to believe that blacks care about other blacks lives. Meanwhile they are killing each other at record pace every day. It’s a load of shite.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26713 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 11:00 pm to
If there is ever an honest investigation of J6 Nancy Pelosi the entire J6 Commission and Chris Wray get indicted for conspiracy.
Posted by 850SaintsGator
Pensacola
Member since Sep 2021
2360 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 11:04 pm to
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There’s 14,000 hours of surveillance video from January 6th the Bureaucratic State refuses to release for public viewing….I wonder why? Could it be the video will destroy your belief and the Gaslight Media’s reports on what truly happened on January 6th ? Could be.




And working with your hypothesis…the reactions of different electeds during/right after was all acting? They knew Trump wasn’t involved but wanted us to believe he did? And what about Trump’s actions? Were they the actions of a person “in the know” or was he shielded from the plot too?
Posted by 850SaintsGator
Pensacola
Member since Sep 2021
2360 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 11:36 pm to
Thanks for the thoughtful response- glad it’ wasn’t insult filled- not saying you insult ppl but i generally find ppl on this site will insult ppl who thinks differently


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You can’t just skip over that fact. That’s a massive detail that shreds any idea that it was some terrorist attack. For it to even be compared to the atrocities committed by blm and antifa is simply laughable.



I don’t buy into the conspiracy bc it seems rather convenient for Trump supporters to have a boogeyman to blame rather than their leader. I mean come on…explain Roger Stone and all Trump’s henchmen, were their odd actions part of the deep state plan? It takes as much “faith” to accept each theory …i already think low of Trump so, i can easily accept he wanted Pence to not count the “contested” votes and had planned (or knew of the plan) to stage a violent crowd to create more confusion


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Those ppl weren’t the alphabet agencies …what was their intentions ? I mean? Terrorism is a pretty close description

You know that?



I can tell you honestly, the week after J6 was committee week for the Florida Legislature so we were all up. The Capitol police and the house/senate sergeants office were on high alert for disturbance. We were getting emails for safety etc. so yeah, we had terror on our minds.

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hundreds of ppl carrying/plastic restraints/bear spray ??

So they were going to overthrow the United States government with plastic restraints and bear spray?





But why were they carrying them? Like…I’ve been to a few marches in my life, i never brought those items. They were up to something- i say…overthrow something. What’s your theory on why they had them?

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George Floyd was/is a pos. He held a gun to a pregnant woman’s belly while he and his buddies robbed her home. He had a lethal amount of drugs in his system. But yes, let’s look at the cop on his neck and now we’re supposed to believe that blacks care about other blacks lives. Meanwhile they are killing each other at record pace every day. It’s a load of shite.




So let’s put this all in prospective -

You had the killing of Breonna Taylor at the hands of police …Armuad Ashbury murder, that had also been covered up ….then an 8 minute video of Chauvin killing George Taylor. I don’t care how much a pos a person is but watching someone die for 8 minutes is effn intense … yeah, we have learned different things regarding George since but nothing stops that raw emotion of watching someone die. Justice demands action …so yeah, i get the initial outrage
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63024 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 11:38 pm to
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It’s no more insane than ppl saying J6 was just law abiding citizens walking in an orderly fashion between the velvet ropes



It was an unarmed protest the likes of which this country has seen 1000 times.
Posted by 850SaintsGator
Pensacola
Member since Sep 2021
2360 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 11:52 pm to
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It was an unarmed protest the likes of which this country has seen 1000 times.



I’ve not seen protestors storm a Capitol building before …i remember Trump apologists (i think Roger stone mentioned it) saying there was a similar riot for a leftist reason but yeah…it’s actually not common at all
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89768 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 12:44 am to
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can see why ppl think FBi/ or some agency was the instigator but what about the hundreds of ppl carrying/plastic restraints/bear spray ??


So they were going to overthrow the government via plastic and some spray? Just think about that for a few minutes.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 12:45 am to
If there are any doubts about JD Vance not being a legit Populist, the balls of him to make this post should go a long way towards answering them.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89768 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 12:49 am to
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I’ve not seen protestors storm a Capitol building before …i remember Trump apologists (i think Roger stone mentioned it) saying there was a similar riot for a leftist reason but yeah…it’s actually not common at all


Protesting is common. There has been even armed ones in the past.



Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89768 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 12:52 am to
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Justice demands action …so yeah, i get the initial outrage


He got arrested and found guilty.

Now do the hundreds of blacks slain every year in democrat cities.

Or go help rebuild the black businesses burned down.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11356 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 1:18 am to
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I’ve not seen protestors storm a Capitol building before


Did you forget about leftist protesters storming the Congressional offices, the supreme court, and the gates of the white house? Or do you want to only focus on the capitol building to be disingenuous?

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it’s actually not common at all


Add in the courthouses and police stations the left stormed as well. Yeah, you just want to pretend that Trump supporters are bad people while ignoring the multiple instances of the left doing similar, only worse.
Posted by 850SaintsGator
Pensacola
Member since Sep 2021
2360 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 1:34 am to
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Did you forget about leftist protesters storming the Congressional offices, the supreme court, and the gates of the white house? Or do you want to only focus on the capitol building to be disingenuous?



I can’t forget things that i don’t know- unless this happened from like 1986 to now, i have no recollection of ever seeing that happening.

I’m not trying to be disingenuous- im being sincere in this …in 35 years, I’ve seen one event when the Capitol got stormed/ransacked…so that seems uncommon…right?

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Yeah, you just want to pretend that Trump supporters are bad people while ignoring the multiple instances of the left doing similar, only worse.




This seems to be where you and I differ- i can look at a situation and make my opinions based on the actions and not on if this was a “right” event or “left” event …wrong is wrong and right is right, regardless of the political motivations.

And to be clear, i don’t think Trump supporters are bad…i grew up in a right wing evangelical family - TONS of my childhood friends/ Sunday school teachers/ leaders in the churches/ pastors …even at the church we attend now , are Trump supporters. My parents are Trump supporters, my in laws are Trump supporters…i don’t want to pretend that they are bad people bc they aren’t.


Those ppl involved in the planning of J6 (from the leaders, whoever it was to the lowest planner) , those ppl who knew about it and those who built the gallows and attacked the Capitol police and destroyed the Capitol are bad people ….and before you retort, yes, I’d feel the same way if J6 was orchestrated by leftist - bc it was wrong
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31528 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 2:49 am to
Nothing surprises me from the FBI anymore. Jan 6 was a protest and that’s all it was. Doesn’t mean Trump didn’t do stupid shite that he shouldn’t have including trying to get Pence not to seat the delegates which was insane and who knows about that mystery phone call. But the actual protestors though were just that, protesters.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49521 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 4:51 am to
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t’s no more insane than ppl saying J6 was just law abiding citizens walking in an orderly fashion between the velvet ropes

/\ now that right there is pure bullshite /\
99% of those people were as far from a "violent" mob, or 'terroristic' gathering as is possible. That 99% were engaging in the most precious right we have and is identified in the FIRST amendment to our constitution. To presume they did not have an honest grievance is deliberate mendacity. No semblance of a "fair election" can be supported.

btw - the OTHER <1% of the people causing all the "terrorism" were false flaggers either from the DEMs themselves or their agents in the FBI/media/antifa/blm/etc.

And you know that.

The same people who yawned and supported the "legitimate 'peaceful' protests" of the prior 10 months while cities burned, stores looted, people assaulted, police murdered, thugs worshipped, are the ones now calling this large group of patriotic people "terrorists."

Only the lowest of scum infected with maximum hypocritical dysfunction can propose such obvious reversal of truth, logic, and fact.
This post was edited on 4/28/22 at 4:55 am
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
13742 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 5:16 am to
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quote: Did you forget about leftist protesters storming the Congressional offices, the supreme court, and the gates of the white house? Or do you want to only focus on the capitol building to be disingenuous? I can’t forget things that i don’t know- unless this happened from like 1986 to now, i have no recollection of ever seeing that happening. I’m not trying to be disingenuous- im being sincere in this …in 35 years, I’ve seen one event when the Capitol got stormed/ransacked…so that seems uncommon…right?


When Kavanagh was confirmed as Supreme Court Judge?

Kavanagh protest
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18598 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 5:17 am to
That's part of the control. The forced nomination of people like wray. A president has a list of approved people to nominate for the head of the CIA, FBI,NSA,DOJ, etc. All the approved people are basically the same kind of swamp creature.

President can try to go off list and find a nominee, but the uniparty won't vote them in.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
13742 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 5:20 am to


So true. A REAL journalist would have asked him about the Whitmer plot.
This post was edited on 4/28/22 at 5:21 am
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56550 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 5:35 am to
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It’s no more insane than ppl saying J6 was just law abiding citizens walking in an orderly fashion between the velvet ropes


Can I show you about 8 hours of footage to support that description?

Where was the terror attack?

I have seen no bombs, no guns or fire and the like from that day...

We saw climbing and shoving their way inside...

Flags and selfies are not acts of terrorists.

Being pissed about suspicious election results at 3 am is more of an act of patriotism than someone who should be "charged" and sitting in jail for a year...
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
3851 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 5:50 am to
Worst terrorist ever, didn't kill anyone, blow up anything or burn any buildings to the ground. Oh, any no one has been convicted of terrorism/insurection.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
13742 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 5:54 am to
And don’t forget, they tried to impeach Trump over it. The moment that he lawyers asked to put Pelosi on the stand under oath, that charge went away.

Pelosi is in possession (if she hasn’t already erased it), of 14,000 hours of video evidence that would prove that 1/6 was NOT an insurrection. She’s blocking its release on “executive privilege”, or some shite.
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