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re: On 6/20 SFP offered this jewel of wisdom as to why certain people were voting for Biden.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:15 am to cajunangelle
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:15 am to cajunangelle
you called me a uni party person while not as vulgar,, it is name calling
You stupid bitch count whore
like that I bet you understand that
but you have no idea who Edmund Burke is,, which I mention again because when I try to discuss things,, you refuse to educate yourself
You stupid bitch count whore
like that I bet you understand that
but you have no idea who Edmund Burke is,, which I mention again because when I try to discuss things,, you refuse to educate yourself
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:16 am to 4cubbies
quote:Why bring up socialism? I bring it up because in the US 21st century, the Democrat party is socialist.
Why even bring up socialism? Because the existence and utilization of food stamps means we live in a socialist economic system?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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BTW, I missed where the USA was founded under the Roman Empire rule.
Who referenced the Roman Empire?
You did. I was speaking of the USA from it's founding to now. I stated the FDR started "free Trade" in the USA.
You forgot the question of the tariffs by the Roman Empire. I mean.. Free Trade and tariffs were a thing.... at the same time in that period.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:18 am to NC_Tigah
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Why even bring up socialism? Because the existence and utilization of food stamps means we live in a socialist economic system?
Why bring up socialism? I bring it up because in the US 21st century, the Democrat party is socialist.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:18 am to BCreed1
quote:Which is why I cited Teddy Roosevelt as a good example of conservatism because he protected the free market when he shut down the monopolies
The USA is a Republic. Never in our history has the gov not set up rules and regulations. It's part of the US Constitution. Has always been.
The question is how much should we the people allow. There is a role for Gov in trade and commerce.
there is a time for Govt intervention,, Seldom,, limited and then it gets out of the way
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:26 am to Antonio Moss
quote:Was that something Trump was pushing IYO?
annual deficits were increasing under Trump between 2017-2019
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:28 am to OWLFAN86
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Which is why I cited Teddy Roosevelt as a good example of conservatism because he protected the free market when he shut down the monopolies
there is a time for Govt intervention,, Seldom,, limited and then it gets out of the way
Yes. I'm certain that CA and most here believe that Google and others have a monopoly. And most would support a break up.
Why was that placed in the constitution? The problem with the bushy and McCainites types are they have been convinced that Gov has no role, that left alone big business will be upstanding and moral in all things.
The founding fathers knew that side of the coin too. Look at big business right now and how they are pushing a massive change in the social norms. How they are buying politicians.
So it's either the Federal Gov over reach into the lives of people or big business over reach into our lives (mandated DEI training.... re-education, shutting you out of banking if you disagree..etc). OR a limited Gov.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:30 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Sure, but completely irrelevant to the discussion.
Justifying government intervention to help your political supporters is so very Leftist.
Now address the proposition at hand here.
Can you justify government intervention to curb effects of international adversaries?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:30 am to MusclesofBrussels
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Embarrassing melt in this thread
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Uncle Joe laying a whipping on this loser.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:32 am to BCreed1
Well the incestuous relationship between big business and government is at levels unimagined in previous times
because it no longer is limited in any way to the federal government or the state government all the way down to local governments,, even utility dist,,ISDs .. It's what people now learn in college if they're taking political science is how to make money off of it
And yes even at the local government and revolutionary times there was a relationship between the town businessman and the government but now it's a Chinese govt posing as a business not a local tavern keeper
because it no longer is limited in any way to the federal government or the state government all the way down to local governments,, even utility dist,,ISDs .. It's what people now learn in college if they're taking political science is how to make money off of it
And yes even at the local government and revolutionary times there was a relationship between the town businessman and the government but now it's a Chinese govt posing as a business not a local tavern keeper
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:33 am to NC_Tigah
Notice how these existential meltdowns from the Conventional Wisdom crowd have increased in frequency since the debate? They are SHOOK.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:34 am to BCreed1
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So it's either the Federal Gov over reach into the lives of people or big business over reach into our lives (mandated DEI training.... re-education, shutting you out of banking if you disagree..etc). OR a limited Gov.
Limited government means limited regulation of companies (even big ones).
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Why was that placed in the constitution?
What is "that"?
Cite me the constitutional authority you're referencing/using to defend your position
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:36 am to NC_Tigah
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Can you justify government intervention to curb effects of international adversaries?
Can I? Sure
Do I want to? No. I prefer freedom/capitalism instead of Leftism
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:36 am to NC_Tigah
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Was that something Trump was pushing IYO?
He did nothing to address it
His strategy won't work. The math doesn't work
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:37 am to Lsupimp
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Notice how these existential meltdowns from the Conventional Wisdom crowd have increased in frequency since the debate? They are SHOOK.
What did rebel do to offend you?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:38 am to SlowFlowPro
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Capitalism is freedom.
Capitalism is survival of the fittest.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:40 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Which again has zero to do with the topic at hand?
I prefer freedom/capitalism instead of Leftism
Let's make this simple. If our adversaries act against our national interests, should we respond?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:42 am to 4cubbies
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Capitalism is survival of the fittest.
Naw. Plenty of people live meek lives in a free society
Hell, you get to choose your effort/output/goals and even change them over time.
You can be a grinder/leader one day and a pleb/employee the next.
You know what system does not allow this? Socialism
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:43 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:That is certainly your opinion. Let's test it. Can tax cuts decrease the deficit?
He did nothing to address it
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:44 am to NC_Tigah
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Why bring up socialism? I bring it up because in the US 21st century, the Democrat party is socialist.
I don’t really participate in D vs R discussions. They are essentially the same to me and neither party is worth a single thought from me (or you).
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