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re: On 6/20 SFP offered this jewel of wisdom as to why certain people were voting for Biden.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:45 am to Rebel
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:45 am to Rebel
That’s the problem with these elitist, they don’t really care about people, they know what’s best for you, and you are too dumb to understand that Biden isn’t a criminal, isn’t an extortionist, hasn’t plagiarized his entire academic career, and isn’t selling American interests, and isn’t a pedophile… We can’t see with our own eyes what the truth is, as our eyes are unreliable, and for the sake of our families, we don’t know what this country needs, we are just below these elite minds that know what is best
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:47 am to NC_Tigah
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Can tax cuts decrease the deficit?
Is it theoretically possible? Perhaps.
Our GDP can only grow so much, though.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Limited government means limited regulation of companies (even big ones).
Does not mean no gov. Never has, never will. It also does not mean over reach by Gov.
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What is "that"?
We were talking monopolies.
I will now add what I do not like. First the omission of a bill of rights providing
clearly and without the aid of sophisms for freedom of religion, freedom of the
press, protection against standing armies, restriction against monopolies, the
eternal and unremitting force of the habeas corpus laws, and trials by jury . . . Let
me add that a bill of rights is what the people are entitled to against every
government on earth, general or particular, and what no just government should
refuse, or rest on inference.
[It] is better to . . . abolish . . . Monopolies, in all cases, than not to do it in any. . . .
[S]aying there shall be no monopolies lessens the incitements to ingenuity . . . but the benefit even of limited monopolies is too doubtful to be opposed to that of their general
suppression.
Thomas Jefferson.
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Cite me the constitutional authority you're referencing/using to defend your position
15 U.S.C. §§ 1-38
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Can I? Sure
Do I want to? No. I prefer freedom/capitalism instead of Leftism
You have already told the board that it's not leftism. Which is it? You ran from it again.
Is it dependent on the times in which we live?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:06 pm to BCreed1
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Does not mean no gov.
I already told you there are no ancaps left on this board.
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We were talking monopolies.
I will now add what I do not like. First the omission of a bill of rights providing
clearly and without the aid of sophisms for freedom of religion, freedom of the
press, protection against standing armies, restriction against monopolies, the
eternal and unremitting force of the habeas corpus laws, and trials by jury . . . Let
me add that a bill of rights is what the people are entitled to against every
government on earth, general or particular, and what no just government should
refuse, or rest on inference.
[It] is better to . . . abolish . . . Monopolies, in all cases, than not to do it in any. . . .
[S]aying there shall be no monopolies lessens the incitements to ingenuity . . . but the benefit even of limited monopolies is too doubtful to be opposed to that of their general
suppression.
Thomas Jefferson.
That's in the Constitution? Thomas Jefferson participated in drafting the Constitution?
Remember, you said (and I quoted):
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Why was that placed in the constitution?
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15 U.S.C. §§ 1-38
You do know that's not in the Constitution, right?
Also, what founder was alive when that was initially passed as a law?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:06 pm to BCreed1
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You have already told the board that it's not leftism.
Not true.
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Which is it? You ran from it again.
Give me a specific definition of Leftism, first.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I already told you there are no ancaps left on this board.
And?
What does that have to do with no Gov vs limited Gov and what you claim is leftist policies?
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That's in the Constitution? Thomas Jefferson participated in drafting the Constitution?
Yes he did. Even though he was not present when it was actually drafted, his policy and ideas was included. Most importantly was the inclusion of a bill of rights.
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You do know that's not in the Constitution, right?
Yep! You do realize I pointed out that allowing Gov to issue monopolies was kept out of it and that's why I quoted that, right?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:22 pm to BCreed1
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And?
Nobody is promoting ancapistan on here anymore
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What does that have to do with no Gov vs limited Gov
Nobody is promoting ancapistan on here anymore
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Yes he did. Even though he was not present when it was actually drafted, his policy and ideas was included.
Bro. Stop.
They specifically kept him away because they did not want him anywhere near the process.
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Yep! Y
OK, so why did you cite it?
I'll re-post:
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Cite me the constitutional authority you're referencing/using to defend your position
You are the one who said it was in the constitution. Not me.
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You do realize I pointed out that allowing Gov to issue monopolies was kept out of it
What? you said
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Why was that placed in the constitution?
I let you clarify what "that" was, and you cited a quote from Thomas Jefferson that was not in the Constitution.
When I asked you for the cite for the claim "that" was in the Constitution, you cited a statute from 1890
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You have already told the board that it's not leftism.
Not true.
Ok, so back to the USA has always been a leftist nation due to tariffs.
On July 4, 1789, the United States passed its first significant piece of legislation: a tariff. More precisely, a long list of tariffs around 5% and higher.
Were they all leftists?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:24 pm to BCreed1
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Were they all leftists?
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Give me a specific definition of Leftism
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:30 pm to BCreed1
You’d be more productive arguing with your own anus. And it would have less shite coming out of it.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
Even for you, this manic episode is becoming a bit alarming. Do you have anyone you can call?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Nobody is promoting ancapistan on here anymore
Damn it MAN... NOBODY is Saying the SKY is PINK ANYMORE...
Has nothing to do with this. I don't care what's being promoted or not.
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Bro. Stop.
They specifically kept him away because they did not want him anywhere near the process.
Are you saying that they did not put in the Bill of Rights? That they included Gov issued monopolies?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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At worst, they won't vote for President, or will vote for a 3rd party. They're never voting for Trump.
Then they're not even remotely the intellectual political transcendentalists that you claim they are, and I'd honestly be relieved that they choose not to vote for President.
It's always amazing to me that so many people equate wealth and success to "intelligence". Your Elon Musk types that are built of a phenomenal combination of work ethic, energy and brilliance are very rare.
Several of the highest-IQ people I know make around $125-150k a year, manage their finances with superb balance, and absolutely love their lives because they get a lot of quality time doing what they love and not being stressed out trying to work themselves to death. Then you have multi-millionaire people like Kid Rock and LeBron James that are arguably retarded and willing to sell their souls for more money and success no matter what "staunch beliefs" they claim to hold.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Were they all leftists?
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Give me a specific definition of Leftism
You are the one that should be defining that, but based on your posts, anybody who supports the use of Tariffs.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:35 pm to the808bass
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You’d be more productive arguing with your own anus. And it would have less shite coming out of it.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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At worst, they won't vote for President, or will vote for a 3rd party. They're never voting for Trump.
This means Trump wins.
Trump is going to get at least 75-76 million votes this cycle. If 10% of dem voters just stay home or vote third party, then Biden is done.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:49 pm to Lsupimp
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Even for you, this manic episode is becoming a bit alarming.
wut?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:50 pm to BCreed1
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Are you saying that they did not put in the Bill of Rights?
Jefferson had no part in this. He was not involved at all.
Also, before you forget:
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I'll re-post:
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Cite me the constitutional authority you're referencing/using to defend your position
You are the one who said it was in the constitution. Not me.
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You do realize I pointed out that allowing Gov to issue monopolies was kept out of it
What? you said
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Why was that placed in the constitution?
I let you clarify what "that" was, and you cited a quote from Thomas Jefferson that was not in the Constitution.
When I asked you for the cite for the claim "that" was in the Constitution, you cited a statute from 1890
I'm still waiting on what was "placed in" the constitution, as you posted.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:51 pm to Riverside
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This means Trump wins.
I literally stated in the original post (which has been quoted in this thread multiple times) they all live in states Trump is winning anyway.
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