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re: On 6/20 SFP offered this jewel of wisdom as to why certain people were voting for Biden.

Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:41 am to
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
7095 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:41 am to
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My decision not to vote for Trump has nothing to do with MAGA-Patriots

I think you’re lying here



There is not thinking about it. He is.


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ETA: I’ve asked him point blank about this in the recent past and he has admitted it is in fact, 100% accurate.


SFP is a far left dude. You can tell a big portion of this is because he views the left as more intelligent and I’d guess he likes that they have their shite together and toe the party line.



YEP!
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71840 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:43 am to
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I'd met a lot of people from the people
quite frankly None of you have blown me away intellectually


Careful, Mexican Wayne Newton. We've met you too.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
7095 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:44 am to
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just quoted you as speaking for the political viewpoints of the, "intelligent, educated, professionals" of SIX states


No

You quoted me talking about a selection of my close friends.






Birds of the feather.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
171149 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:45 am to
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there have been moments that conservative ideology has made a pushback but we have failed to sustain it

But where we stand right now people who think they're conservatives are pushing populism
changing your Govt policies on whims
populism leads to instability in the economy with international relations it leads to chaos and eventually the cost of more American lives

the current GOP trump boot lickers is not traditional Conservatism or quite frankly any form of conservatism perhaps you could label it reactionary faux conservitism and it historically has been proven to be a failure just like communism.
That is a lot just to say you are a neverTrumper Bushy guy.

Please name the moments that conservative ideology ever ruled. JFK and Reagan were shot

A lot watching saw the Bush's, Clinton's, Obama's, Biden, as benefitting themselves with fake wars and promotion of the MIC. The Bush's are only R because they live in Texas.

Did conservative ideology rule with McCain, Romney, Paul Ryan? Trump did what they couldn't, peace in the middle East w/ the Abraham Accords, and R v Wade sent packing returning abortion to States rights.

Yet the Bush's & Romney neocons are more conservative?

It has nothing to do with conservative ideology ruling. As it is all fake. They all play for the same team, the uniparty.

It is populism v. globalism. Which is totalitarian again? NeverTrump all day long, but don't dare say the neocons are true conservatives.

It is a snowjob and pseudo diplomacy like Romney with a stick up his arse permanent look.
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
11070 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:46 am to
"I don't care what people think about me!"

**proceeds to argue for 16 straight hours overnight about what people think about him**

Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19916 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:46 am to
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I'm fairly certain many of us know educated, intelligent people who think the opposite of Slow's educated, intelligent friends.


Yep. Plenty of doctors, lawyers, engineers, finance guys in LA, TX, MS, AL, FL, TN who don’t think voting for Trump means you’re white trash. Of the people with advanced degrees, by far the highest percentage I know with TDS are people I graduated law school with. A lot lower of a percentage of tax llm grads suffer from TDS compared to other lawyers.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
198109 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:47 am to
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Careful, Mexican Wayne Newton. We've met you too.


wayne newton ? that's a new one

yeah yall have met me

no one disputes the hair
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
6015 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:50 am to
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SlowFlowPro



this guy is going to single handedly cause this board to melt down
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:50 am to
It looks more like he's pushing back against the smooth brains who are hellbent on making shite up about his positions, which we both know y'all love to do.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
7095 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:53 am to
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Saying I want the US to be a capitalist country and then bringing up how China isn't, has no logical merit.

As I said, Nobody is arguing that China is a free market.

However, we are discussing US policy. I want the US to be more of a free market. You want more government intervention (Leftist eocnomics)


That's such BS. Most of the posters here see it too. This goes back to you believing that there were no conservatives that were Presidents in our history. That we have always been a leftist nation.

There is zero way to deny that.

BTW.. Maybe Roger will agree with you, but hardly anybody else is going to agree with you that this nation has always been a socialist/leftist nation.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481201 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:54 am to
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Even this comment proves that you are not who you claim to be.

Explain your "logic" please
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
11070 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:55 am to
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It looks more like he's pushing back against the smooth brains who are hellbent on making shite up about his positions, which we both know y'all love to do.

I haven’t said anything about his positions in this thread, but nice try. I’m just making an observation since this thread has gone 18 pages, while Jacob claims he doesn’t care what people think.

I don’t think anyone is surprised you would show up and try to defend SFP. Y’all both voted for Gary Johnson (only the most principled of conservatives ) and neither of you believe in God, after all.
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 9:56 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481201 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:55 am to
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It looks more like he's pushing back against the smooth brains who are hellbent on making shite up about his positions

As usual, even when the evidence is literally quoted/cited for them
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
62805 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:57 am to
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There is nothing about (actually) conservative economics that require people to be hurt.


Maybe not in theory but you can’t deny people here are constantly bitching about other people getting things that they want (like food stamps, school vouchers, etc).

Helping someone have food to eat doesn’t deprive me of food. It keeps me safer if anything because that person is no longer in survival mode, willing to do whatever it takes to put food on the table.


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No. It makes no sense and doesn't reflect reality.


You’re being obtuse.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
7095 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:57 am to
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Jake's getting pummeled with counter arguments.

From me at least.


He always does. What I find most interesting is he hides behind being a conservative while defending the left in many areas like lawfare, for an example.


Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:57 am to
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This goes back to you believing that there were no conservatives that were Presidents in our history. That we have always been a leftist nation.


This comes from people who believe Reagan was a paragon of conservatism.
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
11070 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:57 am to
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As usual, even when the evidence is literally quoted/cited for them

The evidence is you claiming multiple times in this thread that you don’t care what people think about you, and then proceed to argue with people on their thoughts about you for 16 hours.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481201 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:57 am to
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This goes back to you believing that there were no conservatives that were Presidents in our history. That we have always been a leftist nation.



And there it is again, my Buckeye friend.


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but hardly anybody else is going to agree with you that this nation has always been a socialist/leftist nation.

You're confusing me with the scholar that is Jjdoc
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:58 am to
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I haven’t said anything about his positions in this thread, but nice try.


My observations aren't limited to your posts in this thread, but nice try.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
7095 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:59 am to
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So you couldn't in good conscience support Ron?


I already stopped supporting him during the race due to his abortion law/support,


Turbeauxdog, there it is again.


We all see it, yet he is here trying to tell you to not believe your eyes.
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