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re: On 6/20 SFP offered this jewel of wisdom as to why certain people were voting for Biden.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:13 am to OWLFAN86
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:13 am to OWLFAN86
I have not read the thread. What in the frick is admiring someones pluck?
Your one post seemed neverTrumper establishment loving.
I have admitted I was a dumbasshole.... Falling for the Bush, McCain, Romney schtick with LIVE war shown on MSNBC as so righteously cool way back when.
What has become of those wars? The horrid Afghanistan withdrawal killing more unnecessarily.
I wish I could go back in time and vote for Ron Paul. Stop white knighting SFP he is trolling for the fun of the outrage.
So you do have intelligence and aren't another slap happy neocon tard... Why don't you run for President? Seriously. You would need a young black female running mate.
Your one post seemed neverTrumper establishment loving.
I have admitted I was a dumbasshole.... Falling for the Bush, McCain, Romney schtick with LIVE war shown on MSNBC as so righteously cool way back when.
What has become of those wars? The horrid Afghanistan withdrawal killing more unnecessarily.
I wish I could go back in time and vote for Ron Paul. Stop white knighting SFP he is trolling for the fun of the outrage.
So you do have intelligence and aren't another slap happy neocon tard... Why don't you run for President? Seriously. You would need a young black female running mate.
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:14 am to Rebel
He’s your typical ignorant, arrogant, academic paper pusher. His behavior reflects the common traits you see among those who claim to be liberal and conservative at the same time. It’s delusion and easy to see through.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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This goes back to you believing that there were no conservatives that were Presidents in our history. That we have always been a leftist nation.
And there it is again, my Buckeye friend.
There is a reason why you still can not answer the question.
Your view is that a tariff is a leftist idea and not conservative. Based on that the USA has always been a leftist nation.
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You're confusing me with
Not confusing you with anybody.
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 10:23 am
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:15 am to BeehiveTiger
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those who claim to be liberal and conservative at the same time
...as opposed to people who are liberal and conservative at the same time, and try to pretend they aren't?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:15 am to 4cubbies
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Are we discussing reality or something else?
You were asked:
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How in everloving hell do liberal policies aid you in your ability to support yourself?
You replied:
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I don’t look at myself as if I’m a crab in a bucket. I don’t need to step on others to elevate myself. I also think about my entire experience as a human in the world, not just my individual bank account when determining my priorities.
The frick does this have to do with government handouts and redistribution?
I replied with
to the above quoted words, and then clarified (in response to your attempt at clarification) with: quote:
There is nothing about (actually) conservative economics that require people to be hurt.
Then you reply to my comment on conservative economics with examples of people being upset with Leftist economics (redistribution programs).
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:15 am to 4cubbies
There’s “a rising tide lifts all boats” type ideology that purports happiness and stability as a side-effect
Then there’s “welfare and food stamps are meant to bribe the underclass because the alternative is crime” that purports happiness and stability as the direct outcome.
One has been proven to not work, the other has been proven to be unsustainable without balance.
Maybe it just sucks to be a human on planet earth
Then there’s “welfare and food stamps are meant to bribe the underclass because the alternative is crime” that purports happiness and stability as the direct outcome.
One has been proven to not work, the other has been proven to be unsustainable without balance.
Maybe it just sucks to be a human on planet earth
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:16 am to cajunangelle
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I have admitted I was a dumbasshole.... Falling for the Bush, McCain, Romney schtick with LIVE war shown on MSNBC as so righteously cool way back when.
You still are. You're just falling for something else now.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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I've never claimed to be very socially conservative,
You are not conservative at all.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:17 am to BCreed1
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You view is that a tariff is a leftist idea and not conservative
It is.
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Based on that the USA has always been a leftist nation.
This is your position. Stop trying to claim that I said this. You said this.
Thank you for admitting your intellectual dishonesty ITT
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Not confusing you with anybody.
You're making JJ's idiotic "points" and then trying to claim they're mine.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:18 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Imagine thinking a Manhattan real estate tycoon born with a silver spoon in his mouth, who went to Wharton, and used to hobnob with the Hollywood elite is a man of the people.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:18 am to BeehiveTiger
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His behavior reflects the common traits you see among those who claim to be liberal and conservative at the same time
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:21 am to Paddyshack
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Both are libertarian, phony conservative, non-believing, TDS infused, smartest guys in the room.
On fire today!
Truth.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:23 am to Bunk Moreland
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Imagine thinking a Manhattan real estate tycoon born with a silver spoon in his mouth, who went to Wharton, and used to hobnob with the Hollywood elite is a man of the people.
This whole post-Trump reality has just shown how easily malleable people are. It's real insane to experience and scary at the same time.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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The frick does this have to do with government handouts and redistribution?
I explained the connection and you’re choosing to claim you don’t understand. I’m not playing cutesy little ignorance games. Looks like you’re just being a dick because so many are being hostile to you in this thread.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:26 am to Paddyshack
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Both are libertarian, phony conservative, non-believing, TDS infused, smartest guys in the room.
What's always amusing about people like you is how much you'll whine that I don't agree with you on everything. You had no problem admitting that what Trump did with DOJ in 2018 was bullshite, but you don't complain about those who defend it. Why?
Well, it's because you're a brainwashed Trump Loyalist who puts that tribalism above everything else. You try to pretend you don't do that, and you even put on a show to make it appear that way.
I suspect that your biggest problem with me is that I see right through your Reasonable Bro act. You're LoomerPot, with a weird obsession for pretending to call people out.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:27 am to SlowFlowPro
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You view is that a tariff is a leftist idea and not conservative
It is.
Then you believe we have always been a leftist economy. That would translate into the founding fathers being leftists.
There is no other way to view that.
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Based on that the USA has always been a leftist nation.
This is your position. Stop trying to claim that I said this. You said this.
Thank you for admitting your intellectual dishonesty ITT
No no no Slow. You can not have it both ways. Why don't you explain to us how a tariff is leftist today but not during the 1700s, the 1800s, and the 1900s.
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You're making JJ's idiotic "points" and then trying to claim they're mine.
No, I'm clearly talking about your views.
This post is the perfect example of you avoiding and can not really answer to your beliefs.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:27 am to 4cubbies
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I explained the connection
You did not. That's the problem.
I even went through the post history and quoted posts to show that you shifted, randomly, in the middle of the conversation.
Again, my comment:
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There is nothing about (actually) conservative economics that require people to be hurt.
Please don't change the subject and start a discussion about leftist economics in response to one about conservative economics.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:27 am to Hateradedrink
It boils down to whether someone believes we live in a hostile or friendly world. We all curate our own realities with what we choose to give our attention to.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:28 am to lsuguy84
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Wait until they travel abroad. I spend a lot of time in Norway and Scotland and they think he should be in jail this place is a microcosm. Is it unfortunate? Yes. But, the broader scope doesn’t see what I think. That’s okay.
I live in rural Norway where people haven’t voted blue since the Hornsrud administration. Just the other day I was walking down the street to the local sauna with my fellow Norwegians. Biden signs everywhere. If Trump loses Scandinavia he’s got no chance.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:30 am to Rebel
I love the “Trump isn’t really a conservative so I am going to vote for Kennedy” argument. In the history of political justification arguments, that may be the dumbest one other than the “Trump is a danger to democracy”
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