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re: On 6/20 SFP offered this jewel of wisdom as to why certain people were voting for Biden.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:17 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:17 am to SlowFlowPro
I'm just glad you're still able to post after watching your hero Joe Biden look like the dude from tales from the crypt during the debate 
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:18 am to TheOcean
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after watching your hero Joe Biden
wut?
I don't think I have ever, literally, said a positive thing about Joe Biden. And I mean literally, literally.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:23 am to SlowFlowPro
Quick question: if you and your LA friends are so intelligent, why do you live in shithole states?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:25 am to TheOcean
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if you and your LA friends are so intelligent, why do you live in shithole states?
If you noticed, there was a sampling of states where many of them moved.
And to answer your question specifically about me: fate.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:38 am to SlowFlowPro
Fair enough. I figured you'd move to some other democrat controlled oasis like Chicago, NYC, Baltimore, Memphis, etc.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:41 am to TheOcean
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I figured you'd move to some other democrat controlled oasis like Chicago, NYC, Baltimore, Memphis, etc.
...why?
That doesn't sound like me at all, for multiple reasons.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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This is a very emotiona
This and your incorrect usage of logical fallacies is sad and ineffectual.
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That's irrelevant to US policy.
Deranged, absolutely so categorically false that there's no place to go in an argument with you.
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Tariffs are a tax
No.
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Tariffs are also a regulation
Punitive tariffs for bad actors are part of free trade agreements which reduced regulation to encourage economic competition rather than adversarial mercantilism.
Your argument basically boils down to "This isn't real football because the refs sometimes call offsides"
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He literally attacked RDS on sensible, small-scale reforming of the program. I can only go off what he's stated out loud. I'm not a leftist and I don't engage in mind reading like they do.
So two candidates who support ss, guess you couldn't in good conscience vote for either.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:46 am to Turbeauxdog
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Deranged, absolutely so categorically false that there's no place to go in an argument with you.
Saying I want the US to be a capitalist country and then bringing up how China isn't, has no logical merit.
As I said, Nobody is arguing that China is a free market.
However, we are discussing US policy. I want the US to be more of a free market. You want more government intervention (Leftist eocnomics)
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No.
They literally are a tax
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Punitive tariffs for bad actors are part of free trade agreements
They are taxes and regulatory. That is not free trade.
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which reduced regulation
Not if they're promoting tariffs.
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rather than adversarial mercantilism.
That's an entirely different discussion. That is also not free trade.
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So two candidates who support ss
Only one has proposed some sort of reformation to slow spending.
I don't think RDS went far enough, but he's much better than Trump. Trump had the opportunity to go further than RDS but promoted the status quo.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:50 am to 4cubbies
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I don’t think helping someone else hurts me. Is that easier to understand?
That isn't the problem. The problem is that you think the government should force people to help someone else.
Rather than stepping on others, you're fine with people being weighed down as they attempt to elevate themselves.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:54 am to SlowFlowPro
Jake even though all these people accuse you of thinking you're so smart and I don't doubt your intelligence
but here's the proof i'm smarter than you
I stopped trying to debate politics, economics, history ,culture with the politards years ago
I just stay stupid on the OT,, I occasionally drop in on the more sports, share an opinion on the music or movies TV board don't waste your time here
You can present all the facts you want to the few of them understand it. and for the most part they've stopped commenting on here just as I have ,, although this debate was too tempting and some have dropped in
but back to the point,,, politards All they do is call names , they never offer a rebuttle based in theory or history.
and their facts are something someone told them there's little examination of their sauces left or right
just let them enjoy their bud lights, search tranny porn and run their small business in peace.
but here's the proof i'm smarter than you
I stopped trying to debate politics, economics, history ,culture with the politards years ago
I just stay stupid on the OT,, I occasionally drop in on the more sports, share an opinion on the music or movies TV board don't waste your time here
You can present all the facts you want to the few of them understand it. and for the most part they've stopped commenting on here just as I have ,, although this debate was too tempting and some have dropped in
but back to the point,,, politards All they do is call names , they never offer a rebuttle based in theory or history.
and their facts are something someone told them there's little examination of their sauces left or right
just let them enjoy their bud lights, search tranny porn and run their small business in peace.
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 9:02 am
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:55 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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The problem is that you think the government should force people to help someone else.
I think, on top of that, she thinks in terms of exploitation of labor, so if I run a business and I make a profit off an employee's (directed, funded, and managed) labor (within the structure I built), then I am hurting them, by "stealing" that delta.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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INTJs
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Number of Posts: 426264
Full of shite.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:03 am to 4cubbies
You’re being downvoted, but you are not necessarily incorrect. It depends on what your view is of the purpose of a government.
Is the purpose of a government to facilitate open combat while mitigating risk; to ensure an environment where the best win most of the time?
Or is the purpose of the government to facilitate a stable society that permits the most happiness and satisfaction while ensuring continuity of a stable world?
I think you fall closer to the camp of the latter and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Is the purpose of a government to facilitate open combat while mitigating risk; to ensure an environment where the best win most of the time?
Or is the purpose of the government to facilitate a stable society that permits the most happiness and satisfaction while ensuring continuity of a stable world?
I think you fall closer to the camp of the latter and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:05 am to Hateradedrink
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Or is the purpose of the government to facilitate a stable society that permits the most happiness and satisfaction while ensuring continuity of a stable world?
Is this not what MAGA/AF preach?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:06 am to SlowFlowPro
A lot of people preach a lot of different things 
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:06 am to Hateradedrink
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Or is the purpose of the government to facilitate a stable society that permits the most happiness and satisfaction while ensuring continuity of a stable world?
I think you fall closer to the camp of the latter and there’s nothing wrong with that.
other than the inevitable totalitarianism
one man's continuity is another man's concentration camp
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:11 am to OWLFAN86
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politards All they do is call names , they never offer a rebuttle based in theory or history. and their facts are something someone told them there's little examination of their sauces left or right
Jake's getting pummeled with counter arguments.
From me at least.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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Only one has proposed some sort of reformation to slow spending. I don't think RDS went far enough, but he's much better than Trump. Trump had the opportunity to go further than RDS but promoted the status quo.
So you couldn't in good conscience support Ron?
Or are you completely full of shite?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:16 am to Turbeauxdog
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So you couldn't in good conscience support Ron?
I already stopped supporting him during the race due to his abortion law/support, which made him unelectable.
If electability was the primary selling point for RDS, killing that electability removed any reason to support him.
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Or are you completely full of shite?
You're quite a few months late.
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