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re: OMG interview of Vivek Ramaswamy (Ghost was wrong about Vivek)

Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:01 am to
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71030 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:01 am to
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What did he say?


You didn't hear that part?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47030 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Protecting Juneteenth and then 5 days later slamming Juneteenth


Can't he just claim he 'evolved'?

Worked with Hillary & Obama on gay marriage.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97932 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:02 am to
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) So you are posting lies about DeSantis, and your admitting it but i'm the hypocrite? Explain that in detail.


They arent lies with his donors and his love affair with Bolton. And you do the same with Trump so yes you are the biggestbof hypocrites. Im here to call you out on it

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No, i'm bringing up specific points and counterpoints. You avoid any direct subject debate in any thread, really. Why is that?


No you are rambling incoherently and no one is reading your dear facebooks

Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122758 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:03 am to
Is Vivek still blaming Trump for January 6?
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
87208 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:05 am to
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kinda like Dominion suing Fox News and then settling?


Before or after they requested Tucker be fired?

You're not helping your argument the way you think you are.

Dominion is WEF is owned by TD bank and is WEF funded. Vivek's company/companies were not and he spoke out vehemently against ESG before stepping down from being CEO and eventually the board entirely.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:08 am to
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No matter how smart a person is, they can not talk off the cuff like this and be fake.


Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23151 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:11 am to
He sounded a little like Kamala Harris at the first of that interview
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
5970 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:15 am to
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I'm smarter than you


This statement should tell you all you need to know.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57831 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:15 am to
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You didn't hear that part?


I don't know if i did or not, refresh my memory.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71030 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:31 am to
I'd guess you didn't since you didn't watch the interview, clearly.

Watch the interview. It's pretty clear you only read what someone you agree with says rather than looking for yourself. Step one would be actually watching the topic of this thread that you've posted in a dozen times. It provides context to some of the things you claim to have researched and independently determined about him.

Asking someone to rehash, in narrative form, a 5 minute part of a 50 minute interview that is linked is lazy.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9349 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:47 am to
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No matter how smart a person is, they can not talk off the cuff like this and be fake.


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Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
62215 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:59 am to
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Vivek is a serious candidate.


He may become the biggest waffler ever to run for office.

Like Rand Paul

A genius if you hear him for 5 min
Not quite the genius if he talks for 1/2 hour
Past 1/2 hour and you know he is nutty as a fruit bat.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57831 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 11:03 am to
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It's pretty clear you only read what someone you agree with says rather than looking for yourself.


I gave out my own reasons based on the facts why i don't trust Vivek. I did not watch this particular interview. I've seen clips of his interview with Maher, and i've listened to his interviews on Clay and Buck, and some other channels. None of his words negate his past actions.

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. Step one would be actually watching the topic of this thread


Post a link not twitter. Link doesn't work on my PC.

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It provides context to some of the things you claim to have researched and independently determined about him.


What makes you think i didn't independently research Vivek? I've stated many times the reasons i don't trust him. You don't like the fact that i have legitimate reasons so to you i "must be listening to someone else", why? What about my post history makes you think that i use other people's words to develop my own opinions? I own what i say and have many times. Does Vivek specifically address his mingling with the big medical complex?

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Asking someone to rehash, in narrative form, a 5 minute part of a 50 minute interview that is linked is lazy.



Summation would be fine. I'm not asking you to speak verbatim. Or provide a better link.
Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2893 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 11:03 am to
Id happily vote Vivek. No reservations. We have been punished long enough.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2245 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 11:08 am to
Slash the feds. Vivek2024
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71030 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 11:19 am to
He made the direct connection between the managerial class of the private sector and the adminstrive state of federal government, discussed how those groups drive too much of the decision making and spineless leaders allow it for convenience. He also tied it into the concept of first amendment rights in the private sector which he wrote about in an oped, essentially saying the government exerting pressure on tech and social media to silence dissent is an unconstitutional loophole that should be closed.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57831 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 11:22 am to
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He made the direct connection between the managerial class of the private sector and the adminstrive state of federal government, discussed how those groups drive too much of the decision making and spineless leaders allow it for convenience. He also tied it into the concept of first amendment rights in the private sector which he wrote about in an oped, essentially saying the government exerting pressure on tech and social media to silence dissent is an unconstitutional loophole that should be closed.


Ok, and his actions of trying to be a part of the recipient class of the federal government and being part of the problem he is speaking out against?

Again, Vivek makes a very appealing speech. I'm worried about his actions, not his talk. FWIW, i found the link on O'Keefe's website and will watch it when i have a few minutes.
This post was edited on 9/12/23 at 11:23 am
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71030 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 11:45 am to
I don't know what you're talking about specifically, but based on what I've seen thrown out there, I think it comes down to people not ok with the idea of a successful private sector entrepreneur getting into politics. Which is a perfectly reasonable opinion to have and one I don't agree with.

Reframe your thoughts about anyone from private to public and vice versa and there will naturally be things that don't connect in a way everyone wants it to. It's exactly why people assumed Trump was a flake or grifter or a Clinton plant. You're looking for solutions to business decisions and concepts in the context of politics. It will never be a perfect transition.

The Wilbur Soros scholarship (I assume the guys name isn't actually Wilbur) is a great example. A 24 year old looking to climb the ladder isn't going to filter opportunities through the lens of political purity, especially when the extent to which the name Soros being anywhere near someone wouldn't become a political deal breaker until years after he got the scholarship.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 11:56 am to
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They’re all fake, find new material


But if a person is packaging themselves as “not your ordinary politician,” and then is just another politician, the bloom comes off the rose, n’est-ce pas?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28080 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 11:58 am to
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I think it comes down to people not ok with the idea of a successful private sector entrepreneur getting into politics.


Because people have told you that?
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