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re: Oh shite. Trump: "Maybe Obama had something else in mind with all the cash for Iran."

Posted on 9/30/18 at 12:54 am to
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/30/18 at 12:54 am to
Now leftist are cheering on Iran.

What a time to be alive!
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 1:37 am to
quote:

Now leftist are cheering on Iran.

What a time to be alive


He concedes the prisoner release was an unspoken part of the deal...

But thinks kickbacks are lunacy.

Yet they happen in every other aspect of politics...
Smh
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
6311 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 2:26 am to
Cruiserhog: That was actually a really cogent explication as to where the pallets of cash came from. I agree with you. Now, why were the funds frozen in the first place? Because Iran seized and held hostage American citizens who’d still be there but for Ronald Reagan (and the Mediterranean Fleet).
This post was edited on 9/30/18 at 2:40 am
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18838 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 5:43 am to
We know if was for an arms deal. But why didnt obama take the issue to congress before releasing it?

Because any sane person would say, wait a minute, it was due to hostages, that we spent millions trying to rescue, cost the lives of many americans. We also had hostages who suffered pain and lost years, DONT WE DESERVE SOME OF THAT MONEY FOR COMPENSATION? Nah, just give it to them in cash, US cash, with interest.

Blood money, paid for with US blood, and we gave it back with interest. Petting that snake sure worked didnt it?
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 5:45 am to
To repay Iran we should have sent them a billion dollars in bombs, delivered by a B-2 at night.

MAGA
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93882 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 6:37 am to
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It was Iran’s money to begin with


It wasnt Khohemanis money. That's the issue

Boosiebaddaz doesnt like those facts
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154765 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 6:44 am to
Team Iran members


Cruiserprog
Boozie
Bamasjw
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52376 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 6:45 am to
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I’ll concede it was their money.



This is bullshite. The 150 Billion that was unfrozen and the 1.5 Billion in cash that was sent in the middle of the fricking night in CASH was absolutely unrelated.

Plus, even the 150B didn't belong to the mulahs that are in charge now.

You guys get your facts straight.
This post was edited on 9/30/18 at 6:47 am
Posted by CajunSoldier225
Member since Aug 2011
8990 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 6:46 am to
quote:

the US goverment’s money


You mean the US taxpayers money
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52943 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 6:54 am to
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it was probably part of the Iranian deal to get inspectors on the ground monitoring Iran's nuclear abilities


Wait I thought they got to inspect themselves?
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52376 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 6:58 am to
THey did get to inspect themselves.

They also got to decide what areas were open for "inspection" and what areas were off limits.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41012 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:01 am to
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the most egregious state sponsor of terror 

The idea that Americans buy this lie shows just how brainwashed we are. The world's largest state sponsor of terror is Saudi Arabia and we have no problems doing business or allying ourselves with them.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:10 am to
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They also got to decide what areas were open for "inspection" and what areas were off limits.



and advance notice of when the inspections would happen


Someone would have to be a moron to think the "inspections" were anything but a fig leaf to justify the payoff.

If the deal was worth a shite it would have been a treaty.

and 13 payments of $99,999,999.99 to avoid oversight for payments over $100,000,000

nope, nothing shady about that
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52376 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:11 am to
The village idiot must be out of Obamaphone minutes.


He never misses an opportunity to call me a "little girl" when I call out his hero.
Posted by MStant1
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
4551 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:42 am to
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and 13 payments of $99,999,999.99 to avoid oversight for payments over $100,000,000


Link? I honestly have no clue what you’re referring to. Also I’m not aware of any regulatory threshold at 100,000,000 as US regulatory thresholds are significantly lower (thus structuring payments at $99MM is a fruitless excercise.

There is a cash threshold of greater than $10,000 in currency. There is also a wire record retention requirement starting at $3,000.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:52 am to
quote:

As for why it was pallets of cash, pretty sure that had to do with the difficulty in sending wires from the US to Iran.


What are you basing that on?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:53 am to
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I’ll concede it was their money.


The millions in interest wan't...soo..
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:57 am to
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Your eloquent defense of a U.S President's "deal" with the most egregious state sponsor of terror in the world does not rebut the question. Care to try again?


The money was a deal made with the U.S. friendly regime of Pahlavi..not the butchering Mullahs that peanut farmer Carter sided with.
Posted by MStant1
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
4551 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:58 am to
In case anyone is actually interested in the facts behind the funds sent to Iran (which I know most of you aren’t).

Washington Post (interestingly congress has already investigated the funds sent to Iran)

Politifact

Fortune

Again we can argue whether the Iran Deal was a good deal or not, but arguing over the validity of the unfrozen funds just demonstrates a lack of understanding on how sanctions work and how releasing frozen funds is what happens after lifting sanctions programs that required those funds to be frozen in the first place. Also when sanctions are lifted the funds released are not the release of US government or US taxpayer money. It is the release of the previously blockable party’s funds.

This type of funds release occurs any time the US chooses to lift a certain sanctions program, it is just generally with less dramatic effect as few sanctions administered by OFAC are nearly as comprehensive.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:58 am to
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I was simply answering the question regarding the much maligned “pallets of cash to Iran” talking point that Republicans and Trump like to talk about

Why was it made with untraceable cash?
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