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re: Oh shite. Trump: "Maybe Obama had something else in mind with all the cash for Iran."
Posted on 9/30/18 at 12:54 am to Cruiserhog
Posted on 9/30/18 at 12:54 am to Cruiserhog
Now leftist are cheering on Iran.
What a time to be alive!
What a time to be alive!
Posted on 9/30/18 at 1:37 am to Bourre
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Now leftist are cheering on Iran.
What a time to be alive
He concedes the prisoner release was an unspoken part of the deal...
But thinks kickbacks are lunacy.
Yet they happen in every other aspect of politics...
Smh
Posted on 9/30/18 at 2:26 am to MStant1
Cruiserhog: That was actually a really cogent explication as to where the pallets of cash came from. I agree with you. Now, why were the funds frozen in the first place? Because Iran seized and held hostage American citizens who’d still be there but for Ronald Reagan (and the Mediterranean Fleet).
This post was edited on 9/30/18 at 2:40 am
Posted on 9/30/18 at 5:43 am to bamarep
We know if was for an arms deal. But why didnt obama take the issue to congress before releasing it?
Because any sane person would say, wait a minute, it was due to hostages, that we spent millions trying to rescue, cost the lives of many americans. We also had hostages who suffered pain and lost years, DONT WE DESERVE SOME OF THAT MONEY FOR COMPENSATION? Nah, just give it to them in cash, US cash, with interest.
Blood money, paid for with US blood, and we gave it back with interest. Petting that snake sure worked didnt it?
Because any sane person would say, wait a minute, it was due to hostages, that we spent millions trying to rescue, cost the lives of many americans. We also had hostages who suffered pain and lost years, DONT WE DESERVE SOME OF THAT MONEY FOR COMPENSATION? Nah, just give it to them in cash, US cash, with interest.
Blood money, paid for with US blood, and we gave it back with interest. Petting that snake sure worked didnt it?
Posted on 9/30/18 at 5:45 am to bamarep
To repay Iran we should have sent them a billion dollars in bombs, delivered by a B-2 at night.
MAGA
MAGA
Posted on 9/30/18 at 6:37 am to MStant1
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It was Iran’s money to begin with
It wasnt Khohemanis money. That's the issue
Boosiebaddaz doesnt like those facts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 6:44 am to Cruiserhog
Team Iran members
Cruiserprog
Boozie
Bamasjw
Cruiserprog
Boozie
Bamasjw
Posted on 9/30/18 at 6:45 am to indianswim
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I’ll concede it was their money.
This is bullshite. The 150 Billion that was unfrozen and the 1.5 Billion in cash that was sent in the middle of the fricking night in CASH was absolutely unrelated.
Plus, even the 150B didn't belong to the mulahs that are in charge now.
You guys get your facts straight.
This post was edited on 9/30/18 at 6:47 am
Posted on 9/30/18 at 6:46 am to MStant1
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the US goverment’s money
You mean the US taxpayers money
Posted on 9/30/18 at 6:54 am to Cruiserhog
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it was probably part of the Iranian deal to get inspectors on the ground monitoring Iran's nuclear abilities
Wait I thought they got to inspect themselves?
Posted on 9/30/18 at 6:58 am to Strannix
THey did get to inspect themselves.
They also got to decide what areas were open for "inspection" and what areas were off limits.
They also got to decide what areas were open for "inspection" and what areas were off limits.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:01 am to homesicktiger
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the most egregious state sponsor of terror
The idea that Americans buy this lie shows just how brainwashed we are. The world's largest state sponsor of terror is Saudi Arabia and we have no problems doing business or allying ourselves with them.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:10 am to bamarep
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They also got to decide what areas were open for "inspection" and what areas were off limits.
and advance notice of when the inspections would happen
Someone would have to be a moron to think the "inspections" were anything but a fig leaf to justify the payoff.
If the deal was worth a shite it would have been a treaty.
and 13 payments of $99,999,999.99 to avoid oversight for payments over $100,000,000
nope, nothing shady about that
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:11 am to gthog61
The village idiot must be out of Obamaphone minutes.
He never misses an opportunity to call me a "little girl" when I call out his hero.
He never misses an opportunity to call me a "little girl" when I call out his hero.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:42 am to gthog61
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and 13 payments of $99,999,999.99 to avoid oversight for payments over $100,000,000
Link? I honestly have no clue what you’re referring to. Also I’m not aware of any regulatory threshold at 100,000,000 as US regulatory thresholds are significantly lower (thus structuring payments at $99MM is a fruitless excercise.
There is a cash threshold of greater than $10,000 in currency. There is also a wire record retention requirement starting at $3,000.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:52 am to MStant1
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As for why it was pallets of cash, pretty sure that had to do with the difficulty in sending wires from the US to Iran.
What are you basing that on?
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:53 am to indianswim
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I’ll concede it was their money.
The millions in interest wan't...soo..
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:57 am to homesicktiger
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Your eloquent defense of a U.S President's "deal" with the most egregious state sponsor of terror in the world does not rebut the question. Care to try again?
The money was a deal made with the U.S. friendly regime of Pahlavi..not the butchering Mullahs that peanut farmer Carter sided with.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:58 am to bamarep
In case anyone is actually interested in the facts behind the funds sent to Iran (which I know most of you aren’t).
Washington Post (interestingly congress has already investigated the funds sent to Iran)
Politifact
Fortune
Again we can argue whether the Iran Deal was a good deal or not, but arguing over the validity of the unfrozen funds just demonstrates a lack of understanding on how sanctions work and how releasing frozen funds is what happens after lifting sanctions programs that required those funds to be frozen in the first place. Also when sanctions are lifted the funds released are not the release of US government or US taxpayer money. It is the release of the previously blockable party’s funds.
This type of funds release occurs any time the US chooses to lift a certain sanctions program, it is just generally with less dramatic effect as few sanctions administered by OFAC are nearly as comprehensive.
Washington Post (interestingly congress has already investigated the funds sent to Iran)
Politifact
Fortune
Again we can argue whether the Iran Deal was a good deal or not, but arguing over the validity of the unfrozen funds just demonstrates a lack of understanding on how sanctions work and how releasing frozen funds is what happens after lifting sanctions programs that required those funds to be frozen in the first place. Also when sanctions are lifted the funds released are not the release of US government or US taxpayer money. It is the release of the previously blockable party’s funds.
This type of funds release occurs any time the US chooses to lift a certain sanctions program, it is just generally with less dramatic effect as few sanctions administered by OFAC are nearly as comprehensive.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:58 am to MStant1
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I was simply answering the question regarding the much maligned “pallets of cash to Iran” talking point that Republicans and Trump like to talk about
Why was it made with untraceable cash?
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