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re: Oh shite. Trump: "Maybe Obama had something else in mind with all the cash for Iran."
Posted on 9/30/18 at 11:07 am to bmy
Posted on 9/30/18 at 11:07 am to bmy
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Is this before or after Trump collapsed on his previous demands and strict timeline?
Are you still trying to fool people with this narrative
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Posted on 9/30/18 at 11:08 am to bmy
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Is this before or after Trump collapsed on his previous demands and strict timeline?
Why is your wife doxxing GOP congressional members?
Posted on 9/30/18 at 11:11 am to Bass Tiger
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They lost their money when they decided to frick with the US of A!
Except that’s not how sanctions work. At all.
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The money that Obammy flew back to Iran in the dead of night would not make a down payment for the grief Iran has caused the US over the past 40 years.
Huh? I have no clue what you’re even trying to argue here.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 11:13 am to MStant1
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This is effectively what occurred as part of the Iran Deal. One can have qualms with the deal itself, but the cash sent was legal and was actually Iran’s money. As for why it was pallets of cash, pretty sure that had to do with the difficulty in sending wires from the US to Iran.
I don't know how many times you can point this to yet people still don't get it. I would also add the U.S. agreed to binding arbitration by an international court over these funds and it was expected we would have to return the money anyway. Obama just effectively settled the issue by getting them to agree to concessions on the nuke deal for us going ahead and returning the money.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 11:19 am to 14&Counting
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I don't know how many times you can point this to yet people still don't get it.
Interestingly, I have 50+ downvotes for simply presenting facts about the deal. I didn’t even really comment on whether the deal was good or bad. Lol
Also most don’t really understand how sanctions work or the fact that Obama did not lift all sanctions on Iran, but rather very specific ones. OFAC still administers a very comprehensive sanctions program against Iran with or without the Iran Deal.
This post was edited on 9/30/18 at 11:22 am
Posted on 9/30/18 at 11:56 am to MStant1
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Oh shite. Trump: "Maybe Obama had something else in mind with all the cash for Iran." quote:
They lost their money when they decided to frick with the US of A!
Except that’s not how sanctions work. At all.
quote: The money that Obammy flew back to Iran in the dead of night would not make a down payment for the grief Iran has caused the US over the past 40 years.
Huh? I have no clue what you’re even trying to argue here.
How old are you? Did you forget when Iran held our hostages for over a year? Did you forget that 8 people died trying to rescue those hostages? How much US money do you think was spent over the span of that hostage crisis? How much money and lives was spent trying to mitigate the Iranian influence in Iraq after the toppling of Sadam Hussien's regime? How much money has been spent fighting Iranian sponsored terrorism?
You understand how those pallets of cash and returned assets are a pittance of what we spent fighting Iran and their proxies? That Iranian money/assets should have been retained by the United States until Iran stops all nuclear ambitions and transitions to a democracy. Wise the frick up!
Posted on 9/30/18 at 1:26 pm to Bass Tiger
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How old are you?
In my early 30’s, so you “got” me I’m too young to have lived through the Iran hostage issue.
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Did you forget when Iran held our hostages for over a year? Did you forget that 8 people died trying to rescue those hostages? How much US money do you think was spent over the span of that hostage crisis? How much money and lives was spent trying to mitigate the Iranian influence in Iraq after the toppling of Sadam Hussien's regime? How much money has been spent fighting Iranian sponsored terrorism? You understand how those pallets of cash and returned assets are a pittance of what we spent fighting Iran and their proxies? That Iranian money/assets should have been retained by the United States until Iran stops all nuclear ambitions and transitions to a democracy. Wise the frick up!
:::insert old man yells at cloud gif::::
This post was edited on 9/30/18 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 9/30/18 at 2:04 pm to bamarep
quote:Where and when did he say this?
Oh shite. Trump: "Maybe Obama had something else in mind with all the cash for Iran."
Posted on 9/30/18 at 2:17 pm to MStant1
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As for why it was pallets of cash, pretty sure that had to do with the difficulty in sending wires from the US to Iran.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 2:21 pm to lsu480
Care to bring something to the table to refute this?
Posted on 9/30/18 at 4:32 pm to SDVTiger
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It wasnt Khohemanis money. That's the issue
Boosiebaddaz doesnt like those facts
Did not know accounts payable to a sovereign nation were wiped with each successive leader
You're not even a good troll.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 4:38 pm to MStant1
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It was Iran’s money to begin with.
Should drug dealers get their money back from their illegal drug sales once leaving prison?
Posted on 9/30/18 at 4:42 pm to Bass Tiger
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a down payment for the grief Iran has caused the US over the past 40 years.
CIA orchestrated drama to advance an agenda.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 5:19 pm to jimmy the leg
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Should drug dealers get their money back from their illegal drug sales once leaving prison?
Assets frozen due to sanctions and assets seized from criminal activity are two separate things conducted for different purposes.
That said, using your example there are cartel members who are on OFAC’s Specialy Designated Nationals (SDN) list (it’s essentially a sanction against an individual or specific entity), and in the unlikely event they were ever removed from the SDN list, then theoretically any frozen assets associated with them would be released.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 5:21 pm to bamarep
He has to be angling for his own wacko right wing talk show
Posted on 9/30/18 at 5:27 pm to MStant1
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Assets frozen due to sanctions and assets seized from criminal activity are two separate things
What if the assets are frozen (as opposed to seized) due to activiy deemed to be criminal? Who would determine if those assets could later be released?
Posted on 9/30/18 at 5:39 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Talking tariffs now. IBFreeman about to stroke
IBReeeeman will call for mass arrests without PC first though.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 5:47 pm to jimmy the leg
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What if the assets are frozen (as opposed to seized) due to activiy deemed to be criminal? Who would determine if those assets could later be released?
I don’t know how to answer this because you’re still conflating sanctions with regular law enforcement activities. I can’t really answer how freezing assets work outside of sanctions (nor is it relevant to this discussion). With regards to sanctions, this is just how sanctions work. All assets frozen, due to sanctions, are held in an interest bearing account until the sanctions are lifted (if they ever are).
Posted on 9/30/18 at 6:00 pm to MStant1
Iran deserves nothing. Those hostages were kept for what, 440 days or so? Screw Iran.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 6:04 pm to MStant1
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