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Posted on 5/26/26 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 3:17 pm to
Ok now I believe we might strike since it's basically opposite day every time we said before that we would do it.
Posted by PaulDrake
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Member since Feb 2023
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 3:18 pm to
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President Trump @POTUS: "If Iran surrenders, admits their Navy is gone and resting at the bottom of the sea, and their Air Force is no longer with us, and if their entire Military walks out of Tehran, weapons dropped and hands held high, each shouting “I surrender, I surrender” while wildly waving the representative White Flag, and if their entire remaining Leadership signs all necessary “Documents of Surrender,” and admit their defeat to the great power and force of the magnificent U.S.A., The Failing New York Times, The China Street Journal (WSJ!), Corrupt and now Irrelevant CNN, and all other members of the Fake News Media, will headline that Iran had a Masterful and Brilliant Victory over The United States of America, it wasn’t even close. The Dumacrats and Media have totally lost their way. They have gone absolutely CRAZY!!! President DJT"



Trump is just fed up with the fake news as always.

You can`t blame him.

TDS is real!


Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 3:22 pm to
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Its on his truth social posted 35 min ago.


Trump posted that a week or so ago, or something very similar. He has now reposted it. That's what the other poster was talking about.

Not sure how we should take it when the news following the first version of that post didn't seem in line with it. I doubt Iran GAF about this version either.
This post was edited on 5/26/26 at 3:23 pm
Posted by TroutGuy
Member since Mar 2026
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 3:55 pm to
I don't see Trump agreeing to this, after spending years bashing Obama for opening the Brinks truck for Iran.

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Iran will sign a peace agreement with the United States only if $24bn (£17.8bn) worth of frozen assets are released.

Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf, Tehran’s chief negotiator, and Abbas Araghchi, the Iranian foreign minister, delivered the ultimatum during meetings with Qatari officials in Doha.

They insisted that the Islamic Republic would not proceed with any agreement until half the frozen assets – worth $12bn – are transferred when the memorandum of understanding is announced, with the remainder released over the following 60 days.

“Our demand is the release of the frozen assets – not in the future, but right now,” one Iranian official close to the negotiations said.

“No negotiations are possible without depositing Iran’s blocked funds.”
Donald Trump has been warned that accepting the deal would be tantamount to rewarding the Iranian regime, and paying to end a war he began.

The frozen assets Iran wants released include revenue from oil and gas sales that has been held in foreign banks during years of United States sanctions. Iran’s frozen assets, which are largely cash but also include some property, total more than $100bn (£74.4bn).

The funds are held primarily in South Korea, Qatar, Iraq, Japan, Luxembourg, Bahrain, Turkey and Germany. Iran earned the money but could not repatriate it because international banking restrictions made transfers illegal under US treasury department rules.

To release it, Washington would likely need to waive sanctions, ensure cooperation from foreign governments and create a mechanism to guarantee the regime does not use the money to rebuild its nuclear programme or fund proxies.

A Persian Gulf source involved in negotiations told The Telegraph that parties were discussing a “complex mechanism” to stop the money going directly to the regime.

Transferring billions in frozen assets before Iran signs an agreement to curb its nuclear programme permanently would be a hard sell with the president’s base.

Allies of the president see the move as a de facto reward for the regime, which has already held the world to ransom by shutting down the Strait of Hormuz and almost forcing a global recession.

“It’s a deal he cannot take,” a source close to the president told The Telegraph.

“The art of the deal was a great book. Trump should consider reading it,” another senior Maga figure said, reflecting the growing discontent at a war the president had pledged to end.

The assets have become the primary sticking point in talks aimed at ending the months-long stand-off following the 40-day Iran-US war.

According to Iranian sources, the 14-point memorandum of understanding discussed by Pakistani and Qatari mediators cannot move forward without resolving the frozen funds issue.

Washington had previously agreed in principle to release some Iranian assets but later backtracked on implementation details, according to Fars news agency, which cited sources saying “America’s history of breaking promises” has made Tehran unwilling to proceed without concrete guarantees.

Qatar’s mediation has reportedly made progress on the technical mechanisms for releasing the funds, but Iranian negotiators consider nothing finalised until money is transferred.

The demand reflects Iran’s experience with the 2015 nuclear deal, when the Trump administration unilaterally withdrew and reimposed sanctions despite Tehran’s compliance, re-freezing assets that had been released.

Iranian officials repeatedly cite this history when explaining why they insist on immediate, verifiable payment rather than promises of future sanctions relief.

Oil prices rebounded to $100 per barrel on Tuesday as markets reacted to continued uncertainty over reopening the waterway.
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Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 3:58 pm to
Trump on the phone with Bibi today. I would bet they are discussing Lebanon strikes and how Iran keeps making the statement that any attacks on Beirut would end talks immediately. I would not be surprised if Israel calls off the dogs. The way things are going it seems Trump wants to deescalate every situation as it occurs.

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Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 4:01 pm to
Camp David meeting moved to the White House due to weather?

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Posted by TroutGuy
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 4:21 pm to
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Iran's parliament speaker Ghalibaf, Foreign Minister Araghchi, and Central Bank Governor Hemmati landed in Doha Monday. The stated purpose: implement the financial terms of the 14-point MOU under negotiation between Iran and the U.S. Specifically, the release of $24 billion in blocked Iranian assets, with Tehran demanding $12 billion accessible on announcement day and the remainder within 60 days. The same day, President Trump posted that any Iran deal will be the "exact opposite" of Obama's, which "gave Iran massive amounts of CASH." Iran is framing the assets as Qatari-held Iranian sovereign funds with no connection to any U.S. guarantee. Tasnim News Agency, closely tied to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), quoting another the Qatari Foreign Ministry spokesperson, wrote: "The resources in question in Doha belong to the Islamic Republic and have no connection to the guarantee of the agreement, and Tehran, considering past experiences, is pursuing this process with strictness." Tehran is also signaling why the money must come first. The Biden-era $6 billion was released, then frozen again after October 7 under U.S. pressure. This time, they will not accept a release mechanism Washington can reverse after the fact. That framing is deliberate. This isn't Qatar freely giving Iran its own money. It's sanctions relief by another name that requires U.S. license. Qatar cannot release sanctioned Iranian assets without U.S. Treasury authorization. OFAC compliance is not optional for Doha, and Qatar's entire regional position depends on Washington. Trump's repeated public signaling is that any deal will involve no cash and that verifiable concessions on nuclear, Hormuz, and related issues come first. The $12B/$24B ask does now appear to be the transactional underpinning of the diplomacy Trump's own envoys Kushner | Witkoff are pursuing. If it goes through on Iran's terms, the president will have accepted a JCPOA-like financial settlement while publicly calling it the opposite. The final status of Iran's proxy networks and missile programs also appear to be in play despite Trump's insistence they would be ended. If Iran walks away with sanctions relief and maintains its ability to export terror in the region, the final deal was driven not by strategic victory, but by the economic pressure the Hormuz closure has put on his own administration.


The crucial point for me is that Qatar can't release the funds without US approval. So Trump can't wash his hands of the whole thing by saying "we didn't release the funds - Qatar did!" Which is good. We shouldn't be giving them a dime until the uranium starts leaving Iran.
This post was edited on 5/26/26 at 4:22 pm
Posted by Septiger
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 4:57 pm to
Maybe this has been talked about already but how is Iran controlling even a little bit of the strait when supposedly we have destroyed their navy and Air Force ?
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 5:01 pm to
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 5:06 pm to
Drones, and bay boats.
Posted by tigervet4
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 5:21 pm to
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Maybe this has been talked about already but how is Iran controlling even a little bit of the strait when supposedly we have destroyed their navy and Air Force ?

Because they have been planning for this war and knew they would not be using an Air Force or a Navy to threaten that small area. They just thought ahead.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 5:32 pm to
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 6:18 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 6:50 pm to
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Maybe this has been talked about already but how is Iran controlling even a little bit of the strait when supposedly we have destroyed their navy and Air Force ?

They aren’t controlling it physically. They don’t need those assets.

They’ve made it such that the mere possibility of a mine or a missile has resulted in transit being uninsurable. We are presently unwilling or unable to remove that particular obstacle.

So they don’t control the Strait under any traditional understanding of the term. But at the moment they are effectively controlling transit.
This post was edited on 5/26/26 at 6:55 pm
Posted by FizzyPop
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 7:03 pm to
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don’t control the Strait under any traditional understanding of the term. But at the moment they are effectively controlling transit


Great summary, I had the same question with the actual Strait versus the risk of transit and no one underwriting the insurance.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 7:41 pm to
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
9937 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 7:44 pm to
Who did they catch? Pretty vague X post.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 7:45 pm to
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Posted by Aguga
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 7:45 pm to
The one armed man?
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
9937 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 7:54 pm to
Israel's Security Minister is fed up with holding off on finishing off the Lebanon issue in order to preserve what everyone assumes will be a failure of deals/negotiations.

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Israel’s National Security Minister Ben-Gvir:

“It is forbidden to normalize the reality of explosive drones; it is time for the prime minister to bang on Trump's table and inform him that we are returning to war in Lebanon.

We need to cut off the electricity in Lebanon, conquer the Dahiyeh, and return to an intense war.”
This post was edited on 5/26/26 at 7:55 pm
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