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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 5/12/26 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 2:53 pm to
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Well months or years…. is why people call it a quagmire


Exactly how is it a "quagmire" when there is no fighting?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
27783 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 2:58 pm to
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I am curious, do you feel they should be using drones?

I understand the gaming industry uses controllers very similar.


Absolutely. Lots of people already use drones, they are very easy for gamers to master and there are games that are good simulators too. Best of all they allow the operator to remain hidden while being able to precisely see and attack targets within in a mile or two or more depending the drone. IRGC check points, bases and gatherings would never be safe again. The protestors of the uprising would know who they are looking for.

It would fill the gap between airpower and boots on the ground.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
13675 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 3:01 pm to
What is a quagmire?

Physical Meaning: A muddy, boggy, or swampy area that traps feet or objects.

Figurative Meaning: A tricky, tangled, or messy situation (e.g., "a legal quagmire" or "a political quagmire").

Key Characteristics: Inescapability, complexity, and being stuck or bogged down.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
111183 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5895 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 3:14 pm to
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Everything you claim we have accomplished (lmao) with this ceasefire could have been done while slamming them. We lost ground on this and it's not even close.


Everything I claim we accomplished we actually did accomplish. We've weakened their economy, that's not losing ground. Greatly diminished their oil revenues, and demonstrated that they are not interested in giving up their nuclear plans or their militia. And we've made moves to prepare for a next step if it's required.

Those may seem like trivial accomplishments to you, but waging war requires more than just bombing until the other guys surrender. The president and his team chose this respite because they think it's necessary. Your assertions to the contrary are conjecture based on limited information.

Just to add, I agree with some things you post here. I believe action against Iran is a matter of US national security and I really hope this ends up with regime change. I also hope it can be accomplished without going the scorched earth route. But no matter what I want to happen, I can think of many things I don't know, so as of now I defer to the decisions made by people who know more.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 3:57 pm
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17429 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 3:20 pm to
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CNN reports that, according to satellite images, a large oil stain can be seen spreading in the area of Kharg Island - the island from which Iran exports 90% of its oil. Over the last four days, no oil tankers have been observed near the island, so the spread of the oil stain cannot be attributed to a tanker leak or to oil loading processes


Wheres Greta!!!!!
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
11963 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
41061 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 3:49 pm to
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What is a quagmire?

Physical Meaning: A muddy, boggy, or swampy area that traps feet or objects.

Figurative Meaning: A tricky, tangled, or messy situation (e.g., "a legal quagmire" or "a political quagmire").

Key Characteristics: Inescapability, complexity, and being stuck or bogged down.


So, the Cold War?
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13693 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 3:50 pm to
Earthquake...or nuclear test?

I'm only half joking.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20726 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 3:50 pm to
Nothing quagmire about it, excite to whiny little girls. You probably believe that men can be women, right?
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
2684 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:05 pm to
To bad it wasn't a bigger one.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
12633 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:20 pm to
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"When the Fake News says that the Iranian enemy is doing well, Militarily, against us, it’s virtual TREASON in that it is such a false, and even preposterous, statement. They are aiding and abetting the enemy!"

"All it does is give Iran false hope when none should exist. These are American cowards that are rooting against our Country."

"Iran had 159 ships in their Navy — Every single ship is now resting at the bottom of the sea. They have no Navy, their Air Force is gone, all Technology is gone, their “leaders” are no longer with us, and the Country is an Economic Disaster. Only Losers, Ingrates, and Fools are able to make a case against America!"

He nailed it
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21245 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:24 pm to
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To bad it wasn't a bigger one.


No, a big earthquake that caused thousands of civilian deaths and incredible suffering for tens of thousands more would call out for a humanitarian response. It would actually make it much more difficult for us to achieve our military goals.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17429 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:43 pm to
Seeing that the earthquake was 10km deep.
Posted by themunch
in motion
Member since Jan 2007
72876 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:54 pm to
Wait for the 'bombing' has triggered seismic tremors
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
6172 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:06 pm to
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The U.S. military is considering officially renaming the war with Iran “Operation Sledgehammer” if the current ceasefire collapses and President Donald Trump decides to re-start major combat operations, according to two U.S. officials.


This is huge if true.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
11963 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:15 pm to
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
11963 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:28 pm to
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Not sure how accurate the report is. It is the NYT after all.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 5:30 pm
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
13675 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:33 pm to
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Nothing quagmire about it, excite to whiny little girls. You probably believe that men can be women, right?


Nah. I never got into that whole trans ideology.

Not everyone who has negative thoughts about the war potentially expanding multiple years is into trans ideology.

It’s also completely irrelevant to the topic and bizarre to even mention it here.
Posted by TakingStock
Member since Jun 2009
7643 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:44 pm to
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Not sure how accurate the report is. It is the NYT after all.


Not too surprising with a ceasefire that likely won’t end and Iran basically able to regroup and recharge as needed.
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