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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 5/8/26 at 11:30 am to AGGIES
Posted on 5/8/26 at 11:30 am to AGGIES
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Pakistan can frick off IMO. They are part of the reason this shite keeps getting drug out.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 11:32 am to BayouBengal51
So.............. in reality, we didn't.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 11:34 am to jeffsdad
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So.............. in reality, we didn't.
Going by the result, essentially nothing got done other than arming a bunch kurdish cousin frickers in Iraq.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 11:34 am to BayouBengal51
Isn’t a clock about to run out for the sixth time or something on Iran deal today?
When do our missiles start flying again?
When do our missiles start flying again?
Posted on 5/8/26 at 11:37 am to AGGIES
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I’m already getting a sense that it doesn’t matter to you.
Would republicans be discounted also?
First you said they attended briefings and said the plan was incomplete. I asked who said that and you changed it to "no plan". I'd discount the words of anyone who said the latter, because it's obviously false. I normally discount the words of anyone who opposes everything that Trump does, which is most Democrats. I've seen no indication they'll agree with him on things that are obviously good for the country, so why give them the benefit of the doubt on anything they say?
I tried to search for who might have said there's no plan in Iran. Couldn't find it, so I'll just file that with all the other unverifiable message board banter.
This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 11:43 am
Posted on 5/8/26 at 11:46 am to wdhalgren
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:02 pm to BayouBengal51
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:03 pm to wdhalgren
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I tried to search for who might have said there's no plan in Iran. Couldn't find it, so I'll just file that with all the other unverifiable message board banter.
If you’re only interested is parsing words, you don’t need to do any research. But you can try Googling:
Mike Rogers
Nancy Mace
Don Bacon
Tom Barrett
Ryan Mackenzie
Roger Wicker
To get a general sentiment about how complete the information provided was or how well defined a plan has been.
Then you can follow that up with democrats as well:
Chris Murphy
Chris Van Hollen
Jacky Rosen
Mark Warner
You’ll see phrases such as “Incoherent and incomplete”, “complete incoherence”.
This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:10 pm to AGGIES
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Mike Rogers
Nancy Mace
Don Bacon
Tom Barrett
Ryan Mackenzie
Roger Wicker
Did any of them say there was "no plan" for the war in Iran. If so, that's useful info to me because that would be an obvious lie. If that's parsing words, I'm guilty.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:19 pm to wdhalgren
One said there would be consequences if the Pentagon did not provide more information and that lawmakers were being “left in the dark”
Another said, “the lack of clarity was deeply troubling”
Another said, “I don’t know the plan”
Another wanted clear mission objectives
Then there are Republican Senators who wanted a “credible plan”, criticized “limited information”, and were still looking for a “defined strategy”
Another said, “the lack of clarity was deeply troubling”
Another said, “I don’t know the plan”
Another wanted clear mission objectives
Then there are Republican Senators who wanted a “credible plan”, criticized “limited information”, and were still looking for a “defined strategy”
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:37 pm to AGGIES
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Good question. Does the military believe the IRGC would slaughter the civilians?
Maybe the math doesn’t work?
Got to have a plan for this before the war starts.
There is a lot of talk within Iranian community that weapons have been sent but timing is key. There are also claims that Ukrainian spec ops teams are in Iran training the populace just like those who went to Syria and Libya/Sahel to beat Russian backed forces. Much of it is FPV training with lessons learned in Ukraine and the other areas mentioned.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:39 pm to AGGIES
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One said there would be consequences if the Pentagon did not provide more information and that lawmakers were being “left in the dark”
Another said, “the lack of clarity was deeply troubling”
Another said, “I don’t know the plan”
Another wanted clear mission objectives
Then there are Republican Senators who wanted a “credible plan”, criticized “limited information”, and were still looking for a “defined strategy”
Okay, at least you responded. These are people who have, at various times expressed reservations or concerns about duration/cost, etc., but not necesarily come out in opposition to the war or been directly critical of Hegseth having no plan. You call this parsing words, but words are all we have here. Over the course of several posts, you went from this:
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The plan Hegseth devised was limited in scope.
1. Bomb Iranian military
2. Iran capitulates
3. ????
4. Profit
To this:
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You can google to find where they said there was “no plan”.
I was just trying to discern if you were being serious, or using standard message board hyperbole. Now that you've elaborated, I can see that what you meant was, "Some people aren't confident in the plan they've seen so far". My response to them, and you, would be "time will tell".
This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:48 pm to AGGIES
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Congress didn’t authorize a war. And they attended the classified briefings and said it was an incomplete plan.
You may remember, way back around the beginning of March right after all the shooting began, Rubio flat out admitted that we weren't ready to go, but that Israel forced our hand.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:50 pm to wdhalgren
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But I'm asking you to tell us which congressperson said that. Was it pro-regime activist Ilhan Omar? Or maybe noted war plan analyst Ms. Cortez? Because I have a hard time believing there was no plan. I'd probably go as far as calling whoever said that a liar.
Go back to the beginning of March. Rubio said we were not ready to attack yet, but Israel forced us to act.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:53 pm to TulsaSooner78
I'm expecting that pretty soon we'll be hearing "Hey, look over there. Cuba!!!", and the Iran issue will become a 2nd thought.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:53 pm to wdhalgren
Well I’m working on being less snarky because it’s not a joking matter at the end of the day.
It’s painfully obvious that all they had a plan for was to drop bombs.
We’ve been in the “now what” stage for weeks/months. Because the admin and negotiators have been absolutely baffled about how to accomplish a peace deal.
And if the answer is, they had a great and comprehensive plan, but they just decided not to stick to the plan or follow through with the plan, then I don’t give a shite how great the plan was supposed to be.
It’s painfully obvious that all they had a plan for was to drop bombs.
We’ve been in the “now what” stage for weeks/months. Because the admin and negotiators have been absolutely baffled about how to accomplish a peace deal.
And if the answer is, they had a great and comprehensive plan, but they just decided not to stick to the plan or follow through with the plan, then I don’t give a shite how great the plan was supposed to be.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:55 pm to AGGIES
You’re a simp
Posted on 5/8/26 at 1:01 pm to TulsaSooner78
Yes, I’m aware Rubio admitted it.
That reminder feels important right about now.
That reminder feels important right about now.
This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 5/8/26 at 1:17 pm to TulsaSooner78
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Go back to the beginning of March. Rubio said we were not ready to attack yet, but Israel forced us to act.
Israel said on Day one that the US and Israel had been planning the attack for months. The US force buildup started in January and lasted for a month prior to the attack. Obviously the force buildup was preceded by a complicated planning stage that involved military and civilian coordination between the two countries.
The initial strike, Feb 28th, came on a pre-agreed schedule to coincide with a known meeting of the ayatollah and senior officials. Trump had been expected to expound on the buildup during SOTU address on Feb 24th, but he didn't and the media was surprised at the lack of Iran commentary. Administration officials later said that Trump deliberately avoided focusing on Iran during SOTU address to avoid spooking them in advance of the attack planned for end of that week. The NY Times reported that the final strike time was based on US intelligence and passed on to Israel to carry out the strike.
Israel did not force the US to act on their schedule. They told the US when the window would likely be due to a predictable schedule, and that was the plan.
This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 5/8/26 at 2:02 pm to CitizenK
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There are also claims that Ukrainian spec ops teams are in Iran training the populace
Is this from reliable sources?
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