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Posted by UptownJoeBrown
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Posted on 4/25/26 at 1:50 pm to
Time to buy off and give immunity to some senior military to take over and hand the power to an interim government. We gave Nazi scientists and rocket engineers immunity after the war to benefit us.

Back people into a corner with no way out and they become very dangerous.
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 4/25/26 at 1:56 pm to
Most likely no offer was made, Donald is just cooking the regime internally by throwing out statements like this.

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Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 4/25/26 at 1:58 pm to
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President Donald Trump said he canceled the planned trip by US negotiators to Pakistan because there was “no reason” to have people travel for 16 or 17 hours when Iran’s position was not good enough, but said Tehran sent an improved paper shortly after the cancellation.

“There’s no reason to wait two days, have people traveling for 16, 17 hours. We’re not doing it that way,” Trump told reporters before leaving Palm Beach International Airport. “When they want, they can call me. We have all the cards. We won everything.”

Asked what had changed since he said the United States was dealing with whoever was in charge in Iran, Trump said: “Nothing. It’s just that they gave us a paper that should have been better.”

“Interestingly, immediately when I canceled it, within 10 minutes, we got a new paper that was much better,” he added.

Asked whether Iran had offered anything in return for a 20-year suspension of enriched uranium, Trump said: “They offered a lot, but not enough.”
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 4/25/26 at 2:26 pm to
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Trump: "I'll deal with whoever runs the show... there's no reason to wait 2 days, have people traveling for 16, 17 hours. When they want, they can call me, we have all the cards."

"That whole deal is not complicated: Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon."
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 4/25/26 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
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Posted on 4/25/26 at 2:38 pm to
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If we bombed Iran`s empty oil and gas tanks this would cause immediate shut down of oil pumping from their fields.

Floating roof type tanks are mostly used for oils and gas storage.

It is easy to see what tanks are empty especially from the air because the roofs are settled at the bottom when the tank is empty.

This action would greatly increase the pressure on Iran.

Even if Trump just threatened to do it pressure would be applied.


1. We don't want to destroy anything in Iran.
2. We will destroy anything in Iran that is required to meet our goals.
3. Why would we spend money on bombs to shut in their oil wells when we can do it without flying a single aircraft into enemy territory.
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 4/25/26 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/25/26 at 2:44 pm to
Decado is an Iranian who I've been following since the conflict started. Long read but gives you insight to life inside Tehran for a ordinary citizen right now.

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Long thread 1/2

Report from Tehran, written from April 18 to April 25

Tehran does not look like the city I once knew.

It looks like a city under occupation.

17 days after the ceasefire, the mood is not simple hope or simple despair. It is confusion, distrust, exhaustion, and a silence full of questions no one can answer.

The subway is free now, apparently. A cheap little bribe from the same terrorist Islamic Regime occupying Iran that spills our blood, breaks our economy, cuts our internet, then throws crumbs at us as if a free ticket can buy forgiveness.

And of course, even the free subway is late.

That is their whole empire in one image:

ruin your life,
offer you a discount,
fail to deliver that too.

The streets are not alive the way they should be. People move because they have to, not because the city calls them out. Public life has become functional, not social. Daytime is for errands, clinics, work, survival. Night belongs more and more to fear, checkpoints, and the regime’s staged little circuses.

You see fewer faces buried in phones now, because what is there to check when the regime has strangled the internet for weeks? Instead, almost everyone wears headphones, as if the whole city is trying to shut reality out before it crushes them.

Because the thought is unbearable:

that after all this blood,
after January,
after the arrests,
after the torture,
after the gallows,
this mafia might still survive.

Every major intersection, every square, every main four way carries the same sickness. Men in green and black, guns and batons in hand, military vehicles behind them, walking over our streets like they conquered a foreign land.

For one second, you feel like you have been dropped into a Metal Gear game.

Then you remember:

no, this is my city.

Do you know what it feels like to be a third rate citizen in your own homeland?

It has nothing to do with success, education, money, or work. Under this occupation, if you are not part of the mafia, you are disposable. Everything you have can be taken from you. Your job. Your home. Your phone. Your name. Your loved ones. Your life.

So you learn to walk carefully in the city where you were born.

I played in these streets.
I made friends here.
I rode my bike through half of this city.
I know Tehran like the back of my own hand.
I found love and got my heart broken in these streets.
I went on dates in cafés all over this city.
I worked in some of them too.
I have been part of the startup system of this city.
I have been to most of the bookstores.

I know these people. And do you want to know the interesting part?

We all feel it.

Being a Tehran kid is like being a New Yorker. It is more than an address. It is a rhythm, a wound, a language, a map written under your skin.

And now I have to move through it like a spy.

In my own city.
In my own homeland.

I have two phones, because one has to stay clean for the street. If they stop me and search the wrong one, I am not the only one who pays. My loved ones pay too.

That is what life becomes under a regime that treats truth like contraband.

The information space is broken beyond words. Rumors move faster than facts. Verification feels almost impossible. Trust in official sources is dead, and even unofficial news arrives wounded by blackout, fear, and delay.

People are not only uncertain.

They are trapped inside uncertainty.
This post was edited on 4/25/26 at 2:46 pm
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 4/25/26 at 2:45 pm to
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2/2

Some still find VPN access, but only through expensive, unstable, dangerous scraps. Three to eight dollars per gigabyte for a window to the world, with legal risk hanging over anyone who helps others connect.

A country of millions has been reduced to a two class reality:
those with access,
and those left in darkness.

And yet, when you look closely, Tehran is not asleep.

I saw it in people’s faces.

They remember January.
They remember the horror.
They remember the bodies, the bullets, the names, the nights that never ended.

I saw the will to survive.
I saw the guilt of surviving.
I saw despair in the way people walked, but also something the regime has never managed to kill:
belief that tomorrow can still belong to us.

Everywhere, if you listen carefully, people are talking about the end of the regime.

Not loudly.
Not foolishly.
Not for performance.

But it is there.

In shops.
In transit.
In clinics.
In short sentences.
In conversations that begin with prices, internet, work, and medicine, then drift toward the same unspoken question:

what happens next?

People believe that day is near. But the waiting is torture, because while we wait, they execute the young they dragged from January. While we wait, they torture detainees. While we wait, they arrest more.

Even those of us still “free” are living under a slow sentence.

The economy is eating people alive.

Prices are through the roof. Eggs, rice, bread, the most basic things, now feel like daily calculations of humiliation. Spending has become necessity only. People are selling dollars, gold, whatever little reserve they had, not to build a future, but to survive the week.

The streets and subway are not as crowded as they should be.
Street vendors are desperate.
Restaurants and cafés are bleeding customers.
Businesses are taking hit after hit from the blackout.
Layoffs are spreading like smoke after a fire.

There is no mass flight. No grand panic stockpiling. Not yet.

What you see is something quieter and heavier:
controlled pressure,
exhausted restraint,
a city burning through its last buffers while pretending to function.

And the blackout damage has barely begun.

The regime has built a two class country out of the internet itself. White SIM cards and privileged access for loyalists, officials, propagandists, and regime approved circles. Darkness and expensive, dangerous scraps of connection for everyone else.

For them, access.
For us, silence.

For them, propaganda.
For us, risk.

For them, the stage.
For us, the blackout.

And every night, while ordinary people avoid the streets, their loyalists gather in staged little victory circuses. Money flows to militias and regime parasites so they can perform “popular support” under lights, while the rest of the country is suffocating under a digital siege.

They are not celebrating strength.

They are celebrating our isolation.

They cut the internet because they are terrified of our voice. They throw parties because they are terrified of our grief. They flood the streets with guns because they know the people no longer fear them the way they used to.

Tehran is not dead.

It is wounded.
It is watched.
It is occupied.
It is being forced to whisper with a boot on its throat.

But beneath the silence, the city remembers.

And one day, the same streets where we now lower our heads will raise the Lion and Sun again.

Until then, understand this clearly:

The people of Iran are not tired because they surrendered.
They are tired because they have been carrying a nation through darkness.

And still, they are walking forward.
Pãyande Iran.
Javid shah.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
9370 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
9370 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 2:50 pm to
Might return to putting lead on heads soon.

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Posted by BayouBengal51
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/25/26 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24824 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 3:13 pm to
Well, that is too easy to repair. Its gotta hurt some or the idiots won't take it seriously. Destroy the lines.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55269 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 3:34 pm to
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a few pages earlier it was reported Iran is pulling in an abandoned oil tanker to use as storage

Why didn’t we sink that?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15602 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 3:34 pm to
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Tell us how that works then.


They aren't necessarily pumped empty. to begin with and never completely empty unless being tested for bottom integrity or to be cleaned of sediment which is in every barrel of oil
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 4/25/26 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13192 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 3:53 pm to
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Tell us how that works then.

You don't pull out an ancient oil tanker to Kharg island if you have empty tanks on land to fill.

That's probably how that works.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/25/26 at 3:54 pm to
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Yesterday, M/V Sevan was among 19 “shadow fleet” vessels sanctioned by the U.S. Department of Treasury for activities related to transporting billions of dollars worth of Iranian energy, oil and gas products, including propane and butane, to foreign markets.

Earlier today, Sevan was intercepted in the Arabian Sea by a U.S. Navy helicopter from guided-missile destroyer USS Pinckney (DDG 91), and the merchant vessel is currently complying with U.S. military direction to turn back to Iran under escort.

U.S. forces continue to enforce U.S. sanctions and fully implement the blockade against ships entering or departing Iranian ports. 37 vessels have been redirected since the start of the blockade.
This post was edited on 4/25/26 at 3:55 pm
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
9370 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13192 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 4:06 pm to
The Wall Street Journal is certainly posting a lot of bullshite "anyone could guess" crap.

From anonymous sources of course.
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