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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:21 am to
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:21 am to
Live press conference with Hegseth and General Caine:

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Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:23 am to
Posted by TurkeyBaconLeg
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:28 am to
From Hegseth briefing

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Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:35 am to
Hegseth says Project Freedom is separate and distinct from Epic Fury. So far, the Iranian attacks have been insignificant and under the threshold to violate the Epic Fury ceasefire.

Hegseth says Project Freedom is a "defensive" operation and is a temporary operation. Soon, the US will end Project Freedom and hand over to the international community to take over.

The "War Powers Act" clock is stopped. Epic Fury is on hold. Project Freedom is a separate operation and defensive in nature and does not start any War Powers clock.
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Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:39 am to
Posted by chalupa
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:49 am to
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and attacked American forces more than 10 times - below the threshold required to start a significant operation at this point"


Dumb as hell. What is the threshold to start bombing them again? 20 attacks on American forces? 50? These lunatic animals are not going to negotiate. They’d rather all die than negotiate with the US. The ceasefire was just stall tactics to reload for them. It did benefit us in many ways, but it’s time to start taking out more leaders. I’m not necessarily a huge fan of taking out the infrastructure, but not against it if need be. I’m all for taking out the IRGC and their missiles though. Let’s get this show on the road and finish what we started, don’t half arse it.
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:50 am to
Going to get UAE to push Iran into a fist fight. It will open us up to smash them when they do.
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:54 am to
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I can’t explain how significant this is.

1. U.S. warships ships are now escorting vessels.

2. Maersk took the risk, and was greatly rewarded.

3. There are clear paths that are clear of mines.

4. This is a big slap in the face to the IRGC blockade.

(5. Still don’t want to get too excited just yet)
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:55 am to
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BREAKING: "Project Freedom is defensive in nature, focused in scope and temporary in duration, with one mission protecting innocent commercial shipping from Iranian aggression."

"We're not looking for a fight. But Iran also cannot be allowed to block innocent countries and their goods from an international waterway." – Secretary Pete Hegseth
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:56 am to
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Hegseth tells reporters that given the administration's determination that the ceasefire between the US & Iran remains in place, Trump does not need to seek approval from Congress for the war to continue.

"Our view is... that ultimately, with the ceasefire, the clock stops. If it were to restart, that would be the president's decision," Hegseth said

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Under the War Powers Act of 1973, the president has 60 days to conduct military action in response to an imminent threat or an attack on the United States if Congress has not voted to authorize a war.

Without explicit congressional authorization, the law says that once that deadline is reached, the president “shall terminate any use of the United States Armed Forces.”
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:57 am to
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:58 am to
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:58 am to
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:59 am to
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My assessment:

China-Iran Visit

Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi is heading to Beijing today for talks with China’s top diplomat.

Losing Iran as a partner in the Middle East means a lot more than losing discounted oil. The loss takes away a coercive actor that has long acted as a forward disruptor of regional order.
In fact, Iran has given China three things at once: cheap energy, a regime that can absorb sanctions pressure (important for China to build a parallel financial system), and a network of militias and proxies that destabilize U.S.-aligned systems without putting Beijing on the front line.

However, Operation Epic Fury is becoming a real embarrassment for Tehran: 1/ Militarily, Iran isn’t winning and the region is increasingly lining up against it. 2/ Economically, the situation is rough: inflation is high and the currency is sliding toward 1.9 million to the dollar, which tells you everything about the pressure the system is under.

Beijing risks losing an actor that made life harder for the United States across the region, the fact that the talks are happening shouldn’t be surprising.
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:00 am to
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The Joint Chiefs of Staff General Gen. Dan Caine outlines Project Freedom:

"On the surface, guided missile destroyers and other warships are detecting and defeating Iranian threats. This includes fast boats and one-way attack drones. In the air, more than 100 fighters, attack aircraft, and other manned and unmanned aircraft, synchronized by the 82nd Airborne Division are in the air 24 hours a day, providing defensive overwatch for the enhanced security area."
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:01 am to
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When asked about the involvement of Indo-Pacific nations, particularly South Korea, following the Iranian strike on a South Korean vessel, U.S. Secretary of War Pete Hegseth said the “we hope” that Indo-Pacific partners, including Japan, South Korea, and Australia would be interested in getting involved in securing the Strait of Hormuz.
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:01 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:02 am to
Europe is dead. They've committed cultural suicide. They are, however important to U.S. history, "the past".

"The future" is Japan, Taiwan and South Korea.

#Facts
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:04 am to
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SecDef Pete Hegseth pushes back on the claim that Netanyahu is pulling Trump into the conflict with Iran:

"Your question is based on the false premise that somehow President Trump is being pulled in by Prime Minister Netanyahu to any of these actions."

"President Trump has led at every step of this based on his view of American interest in America first."

"There's only one hand on the wheel ultimately directing this, whether it's Project Freedom or previously Operation Epic Fury, and it's President Trump."

"We're grateful for their input, their insights, the existential nature of the threat they face from an Iranian bomb, the capabilities that they can bring to that. But ultimately, the coordination will happen with the leadership of President Trump."
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:06 am to
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To our Arab neighbors: Our region stands today at a crossroads.

Either a path that keeps the Islamic Republic in power, leading to further crimes against our people and your peoples.

Or another path that supports the Iranians in reclaiming their homeland from the grip of a regime that enjoys no legitimacy whatsoever—and this is the path that will open the door to the return of peace and stability to the region.

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The Islamic Republic has launched missiles at the UAE, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, Oman, Jordan, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia. It is targeting our Arab neighbors.

These violations of their sovereignty are unacceptable and we condemn them. But this is nothing new.

This is who the Islamic Republic has always been. And this is why it must end.

For nearly five decades, this terrorist regime has sown chaos and bloodshed across our region.

It propped up Assad, turning Syria into a graveyard.

It planted Hezbollah; as a state within a state in Lebanon.

It armed the Houthis to destabilize the Arabian Peninsula.

It empowered militias in Iraq that undermine Iraqi sovereignty.

It attacked the economic hubs of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

None of this has ever been the desire of the Iranian people, but rather that of the regime occupying our country. Now, however, the landscape has fundamentally shifted.

Assad is gone. Hezbollah has been decimated. The regime’s military nuclear program has been set back. Its economy is in freefall.

The pillars of this regime’s aggression are crumbling.

The Iranian people have paid the price, in blood, to reach this moment. The regime massacred at least tens of thousands of my compatriots in just two days. But it didn’t break the people. Instead, the regime itself is breaking.

Today, history reminds us of our future potential.

Before the revolution, Iran worked closely with Arab leaders — from King Faisal to Sheikh Zayed to King Hussein to President Sadat.

In Oman, my father helped Sultan Qaboos defend his country against insurgency.

We were true partners then. We will be true partners again.

The Iranian people have called on me to lead the transition after the regime is gone. I have accepted that responsibility. Part of their great mandate to me is to return our nation and our foreign relations to normalcy. I will do exactly that.

My commitment is to ensure the transition is orderly, the country is stabilized, and Iranians determine their future through the ballot box. We will not repeat the mistakes of past transitions. We will avoid de-Baathification scenarios and maintain as many bureaucrats and public servants in the transition as possible.

Iranians have made their choice — at an enormous price. Now I ask our friends in the Arab world to join us. To prepare to recognize and engage our transitional government.

We will rebuild our nation not for expansion, but to serve the Iranian people. We will base our diplomatic relations, not on exportation of ideology, but on mutual respect and shared interests. We will reintegrate into the regional and global economy to increase prosperity for the citizens of all of our nations.

Standing with the Iranian people is not charity. It is a strategic investment in making our region one of the most stable, secure, and prosperous in the world.

Together, we can build a Middle East our children will be proud to inherit.

Take this new path with us.
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