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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 4/8/26 at 2:59 pm to Ailsa
Posted on 4/8/26 at 2:59 pm to Ailsa
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BREAKING: White House says that President Trump was privately told the Strait of Hormuz is BEING OPENED, and that traffic increased today — despite Iranian state media publicly claiming it's closed
The island of Qeshm should be taken as it defines the narrow part of the Straits. Make it an international protectorate under American control and a base to keep the Straits open.
It has a population of about 150k.

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Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:01 pm to Auburn1968
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:04 pm to Auburn1968
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:05 pm to phaz
I don't think trump will play this open /close strait thing for much longer. He is giving those in the region the opportunity to step up and free if for good. If they don't do it soon I think he's gonna take it with force.
But the knee-jerk reactions to everything he says is hilarious.
But the knee-jerk reactions to everything he says is hilarious.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:19 pm to rmnldr
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It seems that neither side agreed upon the same thing
It definitely shows no one, without clearance, knows jack shite...but people, like you, have been spreading bullshite all over the internet.
This much...we know.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:22 pm to DMAN1968
Iran making it look like TACO might be accurate. If they broke the ceasefire you have to do what you said you would do before the ceasefire. Otherwise you make America look like a little bitch.
I’m beginning to wonder if the end game wasn’t regime change to begin with, things got tough, and now we are chickening out and letting these clowns run the straight. Pathetic.
I’m beginning to wonder if the end game wasn’t regime change to begin with, things got tough, and now we are chickening out and letting these clowns run the straight. Pathetic.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:23 pm to justsaygeaux2
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Israel was apparently not a party to these negotiations.
They were, per Bibi's press conference earlier today.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:27 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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Is it possible without a massive amount of boots on the ground. The combined Iranian forces could deploy up to a half a million troops. That could be a brutal quagmire waiting to happen.
I think so. I think all we need to provide is intel, air support and weapons. There will be absolutely boots on the ground but they (other than special operations type stuff) will be NON USA boots.
I don't envision anything at all like in Ukraine where there is a front line. The entire country will be the front line. it will be basically a small arm war. Tanks and artillery (unless it is on our side) will be a nonfactor. Because air support can easily take out stuff like that when you have air superiority. Anytime the Iran even attempts to move troops from point A to point B, they are subjecting themselves to total destruction.
The Kurds in the Northwest and the rebels in the Southeast would quickly take those two regions. The rest would fall one by one.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:28 pm to msutiger
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Blowing up a Chinese ship will go over well
Meh...blow up the port it's going to.
It's not like its carrying oil or anything.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:31 pm to justsaygeaux2
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Israel was apparently not a party to these negotiations.
Bibi already said they were involved so not sure what you are going on about? Vance said Lebanon was not a part of the ceasefire, but Israel has agreed to back off to allow for negotiations to proceed.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:38 pm to LegendInMyMind
Interestingly, Ghalibaf's list seems to be different from the one reported on last night. #6 on his list is Iran's right to enrichment, which isn't the same as #6 as reported by the Iran state media. It's not promising that both his list (as an official negotiator) and the media list have enrichment as a clause though.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:40 pm to justsaygeaux2
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Israel was apparently not a party to these negotiations
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ISRAEL'S NETANYAHU SAYS CEASEFIRE AGREEMENT WAS MADE 'IN FULL COOPERATION' WITH ISRAEL
Do people not read?
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:44 pm to DMAN1968
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Do people not read?
Another gift of the internet. Only acknowledge what advances your argument.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:46 pm to DMAN1968
You're the one who can't read, my man. Israel is not a party to the ceasefire, which is why they're still carrying out operations against Hezbollah. Vance has said as much. They're offering to pull back so talks can continue, but a ceasefire in Lebanon was never part of the agreement.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:52 pm to Ingeniero
You can have a right to enrich but then agree not to enrich.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 4:00 pm to Eldodroptop
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Another gift of the internet. Only acknowledge what advances your argument.
Writers have been doing that forever as far as I can tell, oftentimes passing their convincing propaganda to an audience that never heard the other side of the debate. The internet has made the technique more obvious because we have better access to all sides of an issue, if we're willing to dig. So the new technique is to try and bury any uncomfortable viewpoint with a flood of nonsense. Everybody does that now and disinformation bots are becoming very common.
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 4:00 pm to ItTakesAThief
What’s the latest stance on this “war” fellow Polibros?
I’m just genuinely curious as I’ve stayed confused for much of this conflict. TIA
I’m just genuinely curious as I’ve stayed confused for much of this conflict. TIA
Posted on 4/8/26 at 4:01 pm to ItTakesAThief
Posted on 4/8/26 at 4:09 pm to Huge Richard
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Pakistan’s Foreign Ministry torched claims that Lebanon wasn’t part of the ceasefire: “Lebanon was agreed upon by both parties to be included.”
Their FM Ishaq Dar said the misunderstanding it was excluded "only existed in Tel Aviv and Washington."
While Iran’s Foreign Ministry said the White House’s claim it wasn’t included was an “example of reneging on the agreement.”
Pakistan is doubling down and calling their ally, the U.S, as well as Israel, liars.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 4:09 pm to DD_Rolltide
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Iran making it look like TACO might be accurate. If they broke the ceasefire you have to do what you said you would do before the ceasefire. Otherwise you make America look like a little bitch.
I’m beginning to wonder if the end game wasn’t regime change to begin with, things got tough, and now we are chickening out and letting these clowns run the straight. Pathetic.
I don't know about all that.
But it has been demonstrated several times that if you call Trump's bluff, he doesn't follow through with his original threats. You should expect the same pattern to repeat here.
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