re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

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I think it is safe to say that the overall communication between us, the Pakis, Iran, and Israel regarding this agreement has been mostly shite to this point.

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Certainly with regard to Israel. Israel was apparently not a party to these negotiations. The Paki's and Iran really fricked up by not including them. It is not our responsibility to include them and it's insane to suggest that we force them to comply with the terms of this cease fire. Israel has taken the brunt of this terrorist regime's transgressions. They're doing their own thing.

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BREAKING: White House says that President Trump was privately told the Strait of Hormuz is BEING OPENED, and that traffic increased today — despite Iranian state media publicly claiming it's closed

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The island of Qeshm should be taken as it defines the narrow part of the Straits. Make it an international protectorate under American control and a base to keep the Straits open.

It has a population of about 150k.

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It seems that neither side agreed upon the same thing

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It definitely shows no one, without clearance, knows jack shite...but people, like you, have been spreading bullshite all over the internet.

This much...we know.

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Israel was apparently not a party to these negotiations.

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They were, per Bibi's press conference earlier today.

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Is it possible without a massive amount of boots on the ground. The combined Iranian forces could deploy up to a half a million troops. That could be a brutal quagmire waiting to happen.

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I think so. I think all we need to provide is intel, air support and weapons. There will be absolutely boots on the ground but they (other than special operations type stuff) will be NON USA boots.

I don't envision anything at all like in Ukraine where there is a front line. The entire country will be the front line. it will be basically a small arm war. Tanks and artillery (unless it is on our side) will be a nonfactor. Because air support can easily take out stuff like that when you have air superiority. Anytime the Iran even attempts to move troops from point A to point B, they are subjecting themselves to total destruction.

The Kurds in the Northwest and the rebels in the Southeast would quickly take those two regions. The rest would fall one by one.

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Israel was apparently not a party to these negotiations.

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Bibi already said they were involved so not sure what you are going on about? Vance said Lebanon was not a part of the ceasefire, but Israel has agreed to back off to allow for negotiations to proceed.

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Israel was apparently not a party to these negotiations

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ISRAEL'S NETANYAHU SAYS CEASEFIRE AGREEMENT WAS MADE 'IN FULL COOPERATION' WITH ISRAEL

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Do people not read?

You're the one who can't read, my man. Israel is not a party to the ceasefire, which is why they're still carrying out operations against Hezbollah. Vance has said as much. They're offering to pull back so talks can continue, but a ceasefire in Lebanon was never part of the agreement.

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Another gift of the internet. Only acknowledge what advances your argument.

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Writers have been doing that forever as far as I can tell, oftentimes passing their convincing propaganda to an audience that never heard the other side of the debate. The internet has made the technique more obvious because we have better access to all sides of an issue, if we're willing to dig. So the new technique is to try and bury any uncomfortable viewpoint with a flood of nonsense. Everybody does that now and disinformation bots are becoming very common.