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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:39 am to
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:39 am to
If it’s this bad now when we have had what 10 total KIA maybe a few more and this is how people are acting wait until the marines have to go clear the browns out of all these tiny little islands along the straight and in the Persian gulf which is where they’re dug in targeting tankers.

It’s not going to be easy fighting.
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:39 am to
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:41 am to
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Today, in Iran, in the middle of a war, the regime executed a 19-year-old national wrestling champion for the crime of joining January protests.

After signaling to the world, including President @realDonaldTrump, that they would halt executions of protesters, the regime has done the exact opposite.

Three young protesters, Saleh Mohammadi, Mehdi Ghasemi, and Saeed Davoudi, were hanged in Qom after a sham trial.

Reports indicate torture. Forced confessions. No access to chosen lawyers. Closed-door proceedings. No right to appeal.

I call on @GlobalAthleteHQ to stand with Iranian athletes who are being silenced, imprisoned, and executed simply for raising their voices.

This is not just about sports. This is about human dignity.
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:41 am to
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Israeli strikes hit Bandar Anzal and the Caspian Sea overnight, destroying several Iranian Navy vessels and naval infrastructure, the IDF says.

Targets included a corvette, four missile boats, auxiliary ships, guard boats, a command center, and a shipyard. Some were docked, others at sea.

The military says the missile boats, though not an immediate threat from the Caspian, possess anti-aircraft and anti-submarine capabilities that could endanger Israeli aircraft over Iran.

The strike was planned days in advance using Naval and Military Intelligence and marks the first IDF operation in this region of Iran during the current conflict.
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:42 am to
Posted by jeffsdad
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:42 am to
Probably true, but it was also going to be messy getting Maduro. With lots of planning and a bunch of discomboulators, it may be easier than we think.
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:44 am to
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:44 am to
And this is the epitome of why this about more than oil, or geopolitics, etc

It is a righteous cause that is worth fighting. It weighs heavily on me morally we have all we need to free these millions and millions and millions of people, and could end up not having the guts to see it through.

I hope that’s not the case. Sometimes you have to do the right thing, even if it means you pay a cost, in this case a political one
Posted by tigeraddict
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:49 am to
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LNG plant baws in Lake Charles are going to be working a lot of overtime to keep up with the surge in demand. That means that strippers are going to be doing well. Regardless of how long it takes for Qatar to get back on line.


after WWII the US economy sored because the rest of the world was in a state of destruction post war. the US energy sector should be in a great place for gaining market share and exploiting the higher world prices. and we would get what we needed first and sell off the rest, so shortages shouldn't impact us either
Posted by wdhalgren
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:56 am to
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Sometimes you have to do the right thing, even if it means you pay a cost, in this case a political one


Big wars are almost never fought over altruism. It may be a secondary influence but not the main goal.
Posted by klrstix
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:57 am to
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Is it just me or is this war making people go fricking nuts


Just exposing whats always been there...
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:58 am to
I wasn’t suggesting we were doing it out of altruism. I’m positive we have multiple things that are more important to our government than the Iranians

My point I was trying to get across is now that you’ve brought it this far, I think it would be a moral failure to end it without ensuring their freedom in someway
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:00 am to
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WTF does that mean. Are they in or are they out?
Posted by ninthward
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:01 am to
It means they do not want to commit militarily, but still want dibs on the oil.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:03 am to
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My point I was trying to get across is now that you’ve brought it this far, I think it would be a moral failure to end it without ensuring their freedom in someway


We can't change the mission or directive.

The Iranians are going to have to fight for their own freedom.
I hope we provide air support to assist in their own ground efforts.
But it is going to have to be their sacrifice to push through to the finish line.

Has anyone heard anything about the Artesh in the last 3 weeks?
Have they been disbanded (for fear that centralization could lead to a coup?)
Posted by wdhalgren
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:06 am to
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My point I was trying to get across is now that you’ve brought it this far, I think it would be a moral failure to end it without ensuring their freedom in someway


I understand your point. My point is that I don't believe the primary goal was to completely deliver the Iranian people their freedom. I could be wrong. They did say that this would require the people to rise up and finish the job at some point, and I believe that was an honest statement.
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:06 am to
Sorry if I wasn’t clear by what I mean when I said ensuring their freedom in some way.

Basically I want them to be armed by us I have to assume at this point there is an organized resistance, and the regime weakened enough to where they can stand a chance to actually fight and win.

I like you would also like to see us provide them combat aircraft support probably through drones like the reaper and ISR.
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:08 am to
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It means they do not want to commit militarily, but still want dibs on the oil.


So they are out which means no oil for them.
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:09 am to
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It is a righteous cause that is worth fighting. It weighs heavily on me morally we have all we need to free these millions and millions and millions of people, and could end up not having the guts to see it through.

I hope that’s not the case. Sometimes you have to do the right thing, even if it means you pay a cost, in this case a political one

So whose nation are we going to build after this one? When do we move on to China, or Myanmar, or the other oppressive regimes in Africa and Asia?

Is there anyone we aren't under a moral imperative to waste time, money, and lives to "free"?
Posted by GTnerd
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:17 am to
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Here's where I think the administration isn't being straight up about things. We here one day that we've obliterated their navy, missiles, and drones. Then a refinery gets hit, an embassy or base gets hit, or another tanker gets hit. Then it's basically well we haven't obliterated their capabilities yet but I promise we are close. So not sure if this is all just political speak or we went in with bad intel about how many missiles, drones, and fast attack boats Iran actually had.


Yes we are blowing them up very efficiently, BUT it is going to be next to impossible to stop them from making terroristic drone, rpg, etc attacks on ships passing thru the strait, or on the other middle-east countries energy infrastructure. Eventually this is going to cause a world-wide recession. We have totally fricked them up and now they have no reason to stop paying us back.
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