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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:38 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:38 am to BayouBengal51
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I know that, but what was claimed was the MOU had already been signed to begin the process of the 60 day negotiations to get to the final deal. Apparently the MOU itself has not been signed to begin the process of working toward the final negotiations despite the claims by the admin.
It's basically impossible to keep with what has been agreed, what hasn't been agreed, who is telling the truth, who is lying, (or telling "half-truths") and what this means for everyone. I'm finding it very, very difficult not to be negative when the Administration is giving us every reason to be skeptical of this boondoggle.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:40 am to BayouBengal51
We're docusigning this?Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:45 am to Bunk Moreland
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We're docusigning this?
Probably Adobe Sign and Fill
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:47 am to BayouBengal51
Rubio looks miserable behind Trump at the G7 listening to Trump twisting himself into a pretzel trying to justify the deal to Peter Doocy.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:54 am to hawgfaninc
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BREAKING: President Trump, speaking on the possibility of Iran stockpiling uranium, says the U.S. military’s surveillance technology is so advanced that personnel can identify individuals and monitor activity with remarkable precision.
"If somebody walks in and he's got a badge with his name on it, like Mohammed something, which is about a 50/50 guess, Mohammed something, they can tell the name, they can give you a serial number. We can see things you wouldn't believe."
Trump also highlighted Space Force capabilities while defending the effectiveness of the military blockade, which he called “unbelievable.”
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:01 pm to hawgfaninc
Does anyone deal with a venomous snake?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:06 pm to hawgfaninc
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“unbelievable.”
Cuts both ways.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:14 pm to Bronco11
ITS REALLY SIMPLE
The MOU is an Iran performance based understanding.
If Iran performs, they get to turn up the dial on what they need. If Iran does not perform, they dont get the good stuff and they get bombed.
The MOU is an Iran performance based understanding.
If Iran performs, they get to turn up the dial on what they need. If Iran does not perform, they dont get the good stuff and they get bombed.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:23 pm to TurkeyBaconLeg
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If Iran performs, they get to turn up the dial on what they need. If Iran does not perform, they dont get the good stuff and they get bombed.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:24 pm to TurkeyBaconLeg
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If Iran performs, they get to turn up the dial on what they need. If Iran does not perform, they dont get the good stuff and they get bombed.
This sounds like someone that's gonna bend over and take just about anything Iran does
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:26 pm to jlnoles79
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:28 pm to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:29 pm to jlnoles79
Trump also said that Iran needs their money back because nobody would want to invest in the dollar if we don't 
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:31 pm to TakingStock
I feel like we're in The Twilight Zone
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:33 pm to TakingStock
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Trump also said that Iran needs their money back because nobody would want to invest in the dollar if we don't
If you went into a coma the day the war started and woke up to this you'd think Iran would have won a decisive military victory
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:35 pm to TurkeyBaconLeg
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d. If Iran does not perform, they dont get the good stuff and they get bombed.
If and only if we have a president in office willing to do that an a public ready to back them.
Also - once we give Iran some cash and open the straits they will be up to their usual tricks.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:50 pm to TakingStock
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Trump also said that Iran needs their money back because nobody would want to invest in the dollar if we don't
I'd have to hear what he actually said to better understand the statement above, but if a US president mentions the value of the US dollar as a risk, it's probably not something to be lightly dismissed as a joke. The US net international investment position is a massive unprecedented negative $28 trillion dollars, give or take a few hundred billion. In dollar terms, that's about 1.5 to 2.5 times more than all other debtor nations combined, depending on the source. If you look at NIIP as a % of GDP, the US is at -90% or so, which puts us in the neighborhood of Nicaragua, Cambodia, Panama, but still better than bottom feeders Bhutan, Zambia, Greeece, Tunisia, Mongolia, Sudan, and Mozambique. And since we can't bear the prospect of trade discipline by any mechanism, it looks like our plan is to continue exporting massive quantities of dollars every year for the foreseeable future.
If the international community, even a few large actors, ever decided to wield that as a weapon, we would have no way to defend the dollar. Americans would quickly learn how precarious our financial situation, and our sovereignty, actually is.
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:51 pm to jlnoles79
Interesting opposition from the hardliners:
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Much of the dissent appears to be coming from the hardline Paydari Front, which sees itself as a guardian of the values of the 1979 revolution that established the Islamic Republic. The faction has long opposed engagement with the West and advocates a more ideological vision of the state rooted in Shia Islamist principles.
Ahead of the signing of the MoU, prominent hardline lawmaker Mahmoud Nabavian warned that accepting the agreement would effectively turn Iran into “a colony of the United States.” He also criticized provisions related to the Strait of Hormuz, arguing they would amount to surrendering one of Iran’s most important strategic levers.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 1:07 pm to Tigerstark
Yep. Trump is all talk. Iran will do whatever the frick they want and he won’t do shite.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 1:26 pm to TigersSEC2010
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Yep. Trump is all talk. Iran will do whatever the frick they want and he won’t do shite.
Trump blew the hell out of them for weeks and then just last week blew the hell out of them some more. Now we have an MOU.
So, you sound like you don't know what you are talking about.
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