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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:01 am to LARancher1991
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:01 am to LARancher1991
This thread needs to be closed being all it has now is bitching.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:05 am to wdhalgren
quote:It think we have our answer...
Or was he elected to explain why they were too powerful to beat?
quote:Was Trump elected to do a good job, or avoid blame?
And if Trump had fired Fauci, and Birx, and the head of the CDC, etc., then what? Hire RFK in mid crisis, get blamed for every Covid death, impeached and removed from office while the streets of America were burning as our leftist media simultaneously fanned the flames of Covid fear and violence during the summer of love.
quote:Watching MAGA shift from "drain the swamp" to "protect the status quo" is amazing. Complete capitulation to the deep state.
Are you one of those who think a revolution will solve our problems?
quote:Defeating a hypothetical will always be an "win". Brian Kelly had lots of critics, but hey.... Chad Morris would have done worse. Thus, BK was a great coach, amiright?
realizing we could've, probably would've, done so much worse.
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:10 am to hawgfaninc
Wait what? 
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:12 am to Bronco11
We have the strongest military on the earth, Trump says Iran has been decimated.
Why are we conceding anything?
Why are we conceding anything?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:16 am to wdhalgren
You are actually defending how Trump handled COVID? That was some of the worst decision making by a president in US history.
An average Joe of the streets could have seen through that bullshite better.
An average Joe of the streets could have seen through that bullshite better.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:20 am to SlidellCajun
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Why are we conceding anything?
Because he underestimated Iran. Iran is like one of those crazy dudes you fight on the street where, as soon as you throw the first punch, they’re ready to pull a gun and die right there on the spot. They’re ready to sacrifice everything and go all in before surrendering, effectively calling Trump‘s bluff.
His negotiating was useless. That’s what people with common sense said from the beginning, but he didn’t listen.
If you want to defeat a country like that, threatening to wipe them off the map only emboldens them. The only way to defeat them, is to actually wipe them off the map.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 8:22 am
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:22 am to omegaman66
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If getting oil prices down was the reason, he made piss poor choices. Could have ended the regime by simply dumping firearms in Iran for the people. That was all that was needed. Arm the millions of Iranians that wanted freedom and we would have had a free Iran a month ago.
That was the original plan. That plan was abandoned.
Ghaddafi the Islamic Republic, arm the protestors and give them suicide drones Ukraine style and the IRGC will evaporate or die in their holes.
Making deals with liars will only appease the weak kneed.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:22 am to Auburn1968
IRGC already planning to spend their new ill-gotten gains once they receive them.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:28 am to BayouBengal51
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IRGC already planning to spend their new ill-gotten gains once they receive them.
All this did was give them every reason in the world to tool up
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:48 am to BayouBengal51
Give it a little while, and we will see if there is some unseen faction that will work out or if the wheels will fall off again.
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:53 am to BayouBengal51
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Israel is striking Hezbollah positions near Kfar Tebnit after repeated drone attack by Hezbollah against Israeli troops.
At 6:00 a.m., a Hezbollah drone detonated near a tank belonging to IDF soldiers in southern Lebanon.
4 soldiers were injured by shrapnel and rescue helicopters were dispatched to evacuate them for further medical treatment at a hospital.
A few minutes later, a second Hezbollah FPV drone detonated near the evacuation vehicle, wounding another soldier was injured and was airlifted to a hospital for further medical treatment
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:18 am to TBoy
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But the talking points are out that Trump worked a miracle with this adventure and saved us all.
Do you have a link to the talking points? What I've seen in this thread is some people waiting, patiently or impatiently, for the details and some declaring the deal a bust based on principle.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:48 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:48 am to BayouBengal51
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Shades of "We have to pass the bill to find out what's in it."
This was already supposedly digitally signed and agreed to by both sides. The delay in releasing it was to protect "Muslim and Arab sensibilities" according to JD. This admin can't get it's story straight.
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:53 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:57 am to BayouBengal51
Memorandum of understanding is not the final version to be signed & is not binding.
Thought that was common knowledge, but it appears I was mistaken. People will still panic about unofficial stuff
Thought that was common knowledge, but it appears I was mistaken. People will still panic about unofficial stuff
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:59 am to BayouBengal51
Straight up disaster. Anyone defending how Trump handled this war needs their noggins checked. I can't even imagine the problems that will now arise with Iran 10 years from now. He basically emboldened them even more and you gave Russia/China all the battlefield data they need to know what weapons you need to sell to Iran/build to fortify them up. Russia/China about to make some nice money off Iran for military build-ups. Thanks Trump!
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:07 am to Dire Wolf
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All this did was give them every reason in the world to tool up
And if full sanctions relief happens, they will have the resources needed to tool up. If true, this is a slam dunk win for Iran even if nothing else in the MOU comes to pass.
Sanctions relief for Iran though could be an interesting be careful what you wish for moment. Does opening up the country fully to world markets entrench an extremist domestic government or ultimately liberalize the nation over the long haul.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:09 am to hawgfaninc
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Thought that was common knowledge,....
I am constantly and brutally reminded how uncommon common knowledge is...
Clearly I am not too quick on this particular point..
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:28 am to hawgfaninc
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Memorandum of understanding is not the final version to be signed & is not binding.
I know that, but what was claimed was the MOU had already been signed to begin the process of the 60 day negotiations to get to the final deal. Apparently the MOU itself has not been signed to begin the process of working toward the final negotiations despite the claims by the admin.
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